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Maybe embarrassing to you who didn't support the club throughout the seemingly eternity of lower league football but to those of us who witnessed it first hand Steve Bruce did for us what Shankly did for Liverpool. Bruce took the club to heights we could only dream about.

Phil Brown did that
It isn't mental at all. In the history of Hull City Steve Bruce is the most successful manager we have ever had, but feel free to rubbish his achievements.
We are not Liverpool and never will be.
In fact before Phil Brown, another past manager who gets rubbished in a similar way for achieving for Hull City what no other manager had ever done, we were just about on par with Tranmere.

our best managers are Warren Joyce, Peter Taylor and Phil Brown - all who achieved significantly more relatively speaking compared to the **** we endured under Bruce - just read VillaTalk - they've never seen such **** being played - no sychophantic comments about the best manager they've ever had
 
Joyce did manage to keep us in the FL. He then turned us down twice for the managers job so we will never know how much he may or may not have wasted on the transfer market. Of course Bruce spent more then every other manager put together. FFS Peter Swann was our record signing for over twenty years ! Bruce took us into the PL twice and to our first Cup Final. No other manager had done that so how can you compare previous managers spending when we've spent almost 99% of our history bobbing up and down the old second division to the third and even lower ?

Bruce took us into the PL twice, but with the money he had to spend and the squad at his disposal, he ****ing should have done. We were a few points clear at one point last season and we nearly bottled it, would it have been just as rosy if he had cocked that up? Getting into the Premier League with players like Wayne Brown and Caleb Folan in your team is pretty impressive, spunking vast sums of money, not staying up and then scraping 4th place in the Championship isn't quite as noteworthy.
 
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What do you mean, look at the opposition? Look at the Hull City team that was playing said opposition, before he came in we were a bag of ****. We were a struggling Division 3 team who were close to the brink. Non-league would have probably seen us go bust.
I know how bad we were, I was there ! but Joyce was allowed to bring in virtually a new team. He did well in the circumstances but we were by the biggest club in the old div 4 at the time, the other clubs at the bottom with us like Scarboro with their 3,000 fanbase were not in a position to sign a new team like Joyce was. We were never the biggest club in both the leagues that Bruce managed us in.
 
A proper miracle, or just very impressive and timely managing by bringing in experienced and hardened pros?
All hail Warren Joyce, but his managerial career afterwards is honours-free and modest.

he certainly blew his reputation when he signed Junior - totally ****ing clueless - although being fair he hasn't picked him in two months so perhaps he's redeemed himself
 
Bruce took us into the PL twice, but with the money he had to spend and the squad at his disposal, he ****ing should have done. We were a few points clear at one point last season and we nearly bottled it, would it have been just as rosy if he had cocked that up? Getting into the Premier League with players like Wayne Brown and Caleb Folan in your team is pretty impressive, spunking vast sums of money, not staying up and then scraping 4th place in the Championship isn't quite as noteworthy.
Would that be the same Phil Brown who was/is ridiculed and reviled by many fans and posters?
His name gets dragged up for ridicule when it suits and on other occasions revered when people are trying to make out SB was a ****.
Peter Taylor= ****. Yeah 2 promotions, but so defensive, and he had a massive budget by L2 and L1 standards, plus everyone knows Molby found Ashbee, Elliott etc
 
Maybe embarrassing to you who didn't support the club throughout the seemingly eternity of lower league football but to those of us who witnessed it first hand Steve Bruce did for us what Shankly did for Liverpool. Bruce took the club to heights we could only dream about.

I've supported the club since the 70's, just because I moved away in the 80's and wasn't regularly attending games doesn't mean I stopped supporting the club.

And we were still in the bottom tier when I returned to the fold.

Not that I need to justify myself to anyone, particularly an inarticulate muppet who used to fight for his fellow fan, before deciding to slag off those who took up that mantle.
 
Phil Brown did that


our best managers are Warren Joyce, Peter Taylor and Phil Brown - all who achieved significantly more relatively speaking compared to the **** we endured under Bruce - just read VillaTalk - they've never seen such **** being played - no sychophantic comments about the best manager they've ever had
I've no interest in Aston Villa or reading anything about them. In football terms comparing Villa with Hull City on their size, history and tradition it's like trying to compare City with North Ferriby. Which makes Bruce's achievements here all the more outstanding.
 
Would that be the same Phil Brown who was/is ridiculed and reviled by many fans and posters?
His name gets dragged up for ridicule when it suits and on other occasions mentioned when people are trying to make out SB was a ****.
Peter Taylor= ****. Yeah 2 promotions, but so defensive, and he had a massive budget by L2 and L1 standards, plus everyone knows Molby found Ashbee, Elliott etc

Brownie doesn't get ridiculed by many City fans, some certainly, but only a tiny minority.
 
I've supported the club since the 70's, just because I moved away in the 80's and wasn't regularly attending games doesn't mean I stopped supporting the club.

And we were still in the bottom tier when I returned to the fold.

Not that I need to justify myself to anyone, particularly an inarticulate muppet who used to fight for his fellow fan, before deciding to slag off those who took up that mantle.
When you resort to your usual insults it means you have lost the argument again.
 
I've supported the club since the 70's, just because I moved away in the 80's and wasn't regularly attending games doesn't mean I stopped supporting the club.

And we were still in the bottom tier when I returned to the fold.

Not that I need to justify myself to anyone, particularly an inarticulate muppet who used to fight for his fellow fan, before deciding to slag off those who took up that mantle.
For the record, you moved away to London but have said you didn't watch us down there when we played.
Correct me if I am wrong.
 
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I know how bad we were, I was there ! but Joyce was allowed to bring in virtually a new team. He did well in the circumstances but we were by the biggest club in the old div 4 at the time, the other clubs at the bottom with us like Scarboro with their 3,000 fanbase were not in a position to sign a new team like Joyce was. We were never the biggest club in both the leagues that Bruce managed us in.

That season, I'd have said Cardiff, Rotherham, Swansea and Cambridge were bigger clubs than us at the time. We had no money and nearly no ground. I was there too, I remember it very well indeed. I certainly don't remember us being the 'biggest club in the division'. It's easy to say that in hindsight looking at how we've progressed since then, but at the time we certainly weren't the biggest fish in the pond.
 
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Brownie doesn't get ridiculed by many City fans, some certainly, but only a tiny minority.

Bollocks, it's either a large minority or even a majority.
Big Sam's puppet, the pink jumper, Humber Bridge suicide, wanting to manage England etc etc

Our new ****ish fans rubbished him, taking the cue from their armchair Top 4 mates.
 
Would that be the same Phil Brown who was/is ridiculed and reviled by many fans and posters?
His name gets dragged up for ridicule when it suits and on other occasions revered when people are trying to make out SB was a ****.
Peter Taylor= ****. Yeah 2 promotions, but so defensive, and he had a massive budget by L2 and L1 standards, plus everyone knows Molby found Ashbee, Elliott etc

<laugh> and you're trying to push that as a characteristic for being our best manager? Steve Bruce not very defensive then?
 
Would that be the same Phil Brown who was/is ridiculed and reviled by many fans and posters?
His name gets dragged up for ridicule when it suits and on other occasions revered when people are trying to make out SB was a ****.
Peter Taylor= ****. Yeah 2 promotions, but so defensive, and he had a massive budget by L2 and L1 standards, plus everyone knows Molby found Ashbee, Elliott etc

Also, did this bit not matter? The back to back promotions were one thing, but keeping that squad there was pretty impressive too. Molby might have found them, it didn't really do him much good did it, as it wasn't Molby who got us promoted.
 
That season, I'd have said Cardiff, Rotherham, Swansea and Cambridge were bigger clubs than us at the time. We had no money and nearly no ground. I was there too, I remember it very well indeed. I certainly don't remember us being the 'biggest club in the division'. It's easy to say that in hindsight looking at how we've progressed since then, but at the time we certainly weren't the biggest fish in the pond.
We attracted over 20,000 ( although the official club line was less than that) for the vital home game with Scarboro that season. No other club in the same division at that time could have got anywhere near a crowd like that from the position we were in.
 
Also, did this bit not matter? The back to back promotions were one thing, but keeping that squad there was pretty impressive too. Molby might have found them, it didn't really do him much good did it, as it wasn't Molby who got us promoted.

I'll spell it out: I was 'rubbishing' PT with the kind of mean, one-eyed, selective opinions dressed as semi-facts that turds on here use to judge SB.
To sum up: all hail WJ, PT, PB and SB.
 
We attracted over 20,000 ( although the official club line was less than that) for the vital home game with Scarboro that season. No other club in the same division at that time could have got anywhere near a crowd like that from the position we were in.

We have an amazing fan base, granted. It pulled together when we needed to. The attendance against Scarborough was very high (it was also a bit of a derby), but for the rest of that season, it was averaging between 4000 and 7000. The home game before that got an attendance of 6,294.