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Sterling Archer said:
<laugh> He did well, but to compare him to Shankly is mental.
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It isn't mental at all. In the history of Hull City Steve Bruce is the most successful manager we have ever had, but feel free to rubbish his achievements.
We are not Liverpool and never will be.
In fact before Phil Brown, another past manager who gets rubbished in a similar way for achieving for Hull City what no other manager had ever done, we were just about on par with Tranmere.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
Bruce is obviously our most successful ever manager, but the bar has been set fairly low and comparing him with Shankly is just embarrassing.
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Agreed, he wasn't even their best manager and never won the EC. Paisley won it 3 times and even Joe ***an won it once.
 
Dick Lexic said:
In the context of the history of Hull City Steve Bruce was to us what Shankly was to Liverpool. Perhaps they have a bit more class and respect in Liverpool ?
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no he ****ing wasn't - you're 'avin a laff - Shankly didn't play **** negative football, **** up Europe, spunk millions on dud signings and **** off because the owner wouldn't let him spunk any more
 
originallambrettaman said:
Bruce is obviously our most successful ever manager, but the bar has been set fairly low and comparing him with Shankly is just embarrassing.
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Maybe embarrassing to you who didn't support the club throughout the seemingly eternity of lower league football but to those of us who witnessed it first hand Steve Bruce did for us what Shankly did for Liverpool. Bruce took the club to heights we could only dream about.
 
Dick Lexic said:
It isn't mental at all. In the history of Hull City Steve Bruce is the most successful manager we have ever had, but feel free to rubbish his achievements.
We are not Liverpool and never will be.
In fact before Phil Brown, another past manager who gets rubbished in a similar way for achieving for Hull City what no other manager had ever done, we were just about on par with Tranmere.
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He's the most successful in terms of getting us promoted, but Peter Taylor got us promoted twice and kept us in the Championship. By the time Steve Bruce came along, we'd already been in the PL for two seasons. I'm not saying what Steve Bruce did for the club was bad, because it wasn't. But it hardly warrants a ****ing banner. Get some perspective; if you're going on solidarity of achievement, then Brown was better than Bruce because he took us to the PL with a vastly inferior squad to the one we had in 12/13 and kept us up with, frankly, a worse one.
 
Dick Lexic said:
Maybe embarrassing to you who didn't support the club throughout the seemingly eternity of lower league football but to those of us who witnessed it first hand Steve Bruce did for us what Shankly did for Liverpool. Bruce took the club to heights we could only dream about.
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What, 16th in the PL? Phil Brown got us to 17th and we were joint top at one point. He spent a fraction of what Bruce did, inflation granted.
 
City Man said:
FACTS

But in no way relevant to each other.
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If Warren Joyce hadn't done what he managed to do (which was a proper miracle and if ever there was a statue to be put up, it should be of him) none of what we are seeing now would have happened.
 
charon-the-ferryman said:
Warren Joyce saved the club from oblivion - Bruce spent more money than every other manager put together
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Joyce did manage to keep us in the FL. He then turned us down twice for the managers job so we will never know how much he may or may not have wasted on the transfer market. Of course Bruce spent more then every other manager put together. FFS Peter Swann was our record signing for over twenty years ! Bruce took us into the PL twice and to our first Cup Final. No other manager had done that so how can you compare previous managers spending when we've spent almost 99% of our history bobbing up and down the old second division to the third and even lower ?
 
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Sterling Archer said:
If Warren Joyce hadn't done what he managed to do (which was a proper miracle and if ever there was a statue to be put up, it should be of him) none of what we are seeing now would have happened.
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A proper miracle, or just very impressive and timely managing by bringing in experienced and hardened pros?
All hail Warren Joyce, but his managerial career afterwards is honours-free and modest.
 
Dick Lexic said:
It wasn't a miracle at all. Look at the opposition FFS.
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What do you mean, look at the opposition? Look at the Hull City team that was playing said opposition, before he came in we were a bag of ****. We were a struggling Division 3 team who were close to the brink. Non-league would have probably seen us go bust.
 
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