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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    I understand what you're saying Goldie - but there is a dividing line, and I think the Danish authorities know where that is. The problem here is not the burning, but the combination of that with the publication of it. If I clear out my bookcase of all my old books and then burn some which I don't need, then there may be one of them of a religious nature - if someone comes into my garden and sees that one of these books is eg. `The book of Mormon' and is offended, then that is his problem and not mine. But videoing the act and sending it to a facebook group called 'Yes to freedom - no to Islam' is one giant step further, and that is the problem.
     
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  2. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

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    I see that there are rumours abound that May may give Scotland the chance of another Referendum when the divorce from the EU is finalized.Considering the cost of funding Scotland by the English taxpayers I think that would be a huge benefit for a 3 country UJ. No?
     
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  3. TootingExcess

    TootingExcess Well-Known Member

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    Most Leave voters I know, also want rid of Scotland - not sure if that's true of the people on here though. I'd prefer them not to leave, it will cost a lot of money for us as well as them, but if they want to go let them.

    We'll throw Wales in for free if they do.
     
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  4. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Well played my Lords!
     
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  5. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Nice one mate.

    On a serious note, I listened to some politician who said basically Scotland would be f222ed without our money and the EU wouldn't let them in any way because of Spain and Catalonia. He went on to say that they would bottle it again.
    For me I would like to keep the union but if they want out then bye bye.
     
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  6. ELLERS

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    I am sort of pleased that there is some opposition to the government (just to keep them in check) but it will be overruled in parliament next time and the Lords will follow.
     
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  7. Wherever

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    Buy one get taff free
    (Almost worked)
     
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    stop promising us(wales) our freedom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we all know your banking system couldn't work without its engineered lower classes
     
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  9. cor blymie

    cor blymie Well-Known Member

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    just seen a story in North West Spain where 120 Romanians who booked a restaurant done a mass runner failing to pay their bill. Romania certainly hit the jackpot with their EU membership. They solved their social and employment problems in one hit
     
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  10. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    Have we reached the stage where every crime committed by a Rumanian gets made public, whereas for others it is different ? And we do it so often, and for so long, that, in the end, everybody thinks Rumanian or Pole = criminal. There is no evidence to suggest that East Europeans in Britain are any more 'criminal' than any other group of people. The same applies in the rest of Europe. People run out of restaurants without paying in many places - is their nationality mentioned ? So why now ? if we are picking out ethnic groups for 'special attention', in this way, then we are on a very slippery slope.
     
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  11. durbar2003

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    I think if 120 Germans did a runner it would be in the news too.
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    Good and bad in all races.
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    Probably but would it be highlighted so readily that they were German?
     
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  14. durbar2003

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    I dont think Romanian is a race Ellers, but they have a different mindset. Germany has a problem as well as West Germans have low regard for the former East Germans. All country's have their favorite to beat up on, Mexicans here.
     
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  15. ELLERS

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    I would also add that similar to your quote about 'every crime committed' You could mirror that with the BBC/Sky reporting of Brixit and Trump. Those news outlets are always quick to complain about the negative things but keep quiet about positive things. Good examples have been the economy. Always headlines when it looked bad (so blame Brexit), then when it's doing well it's a small news item. They also kept quiet about the amount of Americans that think Trumpton is going to do well as a president. I didn't even know about that poll until I watched a US channel.
     
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  16. ELLERS

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    No durbar I was just singing that Stevie Wonder and Paul Macartney song.
     
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  17. durbar2003

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    Yes I think so, they wouldn't just report that 120 people did a runner if they were all visitors from one particular country.
     
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  18. Star of David Bardsley

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    Maybe. I think the tone of it would be quite different, particularly in the comics Mail and Express.
     
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  19. cor blymie

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    first time I've heard of 120 doing it, that takes some organising. We've been on a slippery slope since we joined the EU
     
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  20. colognehornet

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    Where is there a reliable source for this story in the net ? I've searched under different headings but not found anything yet. One problem is that many people use the expressions Rumanian and Romany almost interchangeably - if a crime were committed by English Gypsies would the media refer to them as 'English' or 'Gypsies' ? Probably the latter - but if they come from Rumania this is not the case - then they are 'Rumanian'.
     
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