25 man squad - spot the issue

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Sir Cheshire Ben said:
Bit selective

We've swapped

Bruce
Mason
Keane
Luer
Moses
Lenihan
McGregor
Jake
Snodger

With 7.

As already explained those outfield players who were injured were all expected back before Christmas & would have played some part before now.

We're now adding players who we know will play no part.

EDIT: maybe "adding" is the wrong word. "Including" may be more appropriate to the point being made.
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This is a bit of a ridiculous debate, we've got more first team players available to us now, than we had before the window opened. FACT.

Lenihan's played one game in the last two years ffs.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
Rush him back, good idea.

6 months would be the back end of April.

The place would have been better filled by Bruce.
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In an ideal world maybe. But we now have 4 centre backs and Huddlestone who can go there if needed. is it really justifiable to keep a player on premier league wages who may get a game if 3/4 others get injured.

If that is your only gripe with the squad then I'd say we must be in a good position. The original squad had 4 goalkeepers which is too many, we now have 3. It had injured players in McGregor, Odubajo, Lenihan, Bruce. We had Luer in there and likely to get game time, now he's probably going to drop out of it because we have strengthened. I think we only have injuries to Odubajo and Davies in the squad now.

Yes Odubajo may not make it back, but if he doesn't and we effectively have a 24 man squad the fact that we have 1 less keeper means we still have the same amount of outfield players registered but with less injuries and less 'fillers' like Lenihan, Keane and Luer.
 
TreeHugger said:
In an ideal world maybe. But we now have 4 centre backs and Huddlestone who can go there if needed. is it really justifiable to keep a player on premier league wages who may get a game if 3/4 others get injured.

If that is your only gripe with the squad then I'd say we must be in a good position. The original squad had 4 goalkeepers which is too many, we now have 3. It had injured players in McGregor, Odubajo, Lenihan, Bruce. We had Luer in there and likely to get game time, now he's probably going to drop out of it because we have strengthened. I think we only have injuries to Odubajo and Davies in the squad now.

Yes Odubajo may not make it back, but if he doesn't and we effectively have a 24 man squad the fact that we have 1 less keeper means we still have the same amount of outfield players registered but with less injuries and less 'fillers' like Lenihan, Keane and Luer.
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Three centre backs, one's out for two months. Retaining another when there's room in the squad would have been sensible. Moreso when you consider the recent injuries to two of the other three & the fourth has just arrived & may not be fully fit. We saw how Hudds coped on Sunday.

Henriksen also injured.

We're still short of numbers & weaker.
 
originallambrettaman said:
That's because you're still counting people with one leg and people who were never going to play.
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Before

Marshall, Jak, Kuc

Daws, Davies, H, Elmo, Robbo

Jake, Meyler, Mason, Snodger, Hudd, Maloney, Henriksen, Clucas.

Dio, Hernandez, Mbok

That's 19, without Bruce who was back fit last week.

We now have

Marshall, Jak, Kuc

Daws Rano H Robbo, Omar, Elmo (when he's back).

Meyler, Clucas, Hudd, Maloney, Gros, Marko, Goebals, N' Dia,

Dio, Hernandez, Mbok, Niasse.

21, but only 20 available on a match day.

That looks about the same to me. It would also look better with Bruce still there.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
Before

Marshall, Jak, Kuc

Daws, Davies, H, Elmo, Robbo

Jake, Meyler, Mason, Snodger, Hudd, Maloney, Henriksen, Clucas.

Dio, Hernandez, Mbok

That's 19, without Bruce who was back fit last week.

We now have

Marshall, Jak, Kuc

Daws Rano H Robbo, Omar, Elmo (when he's back).

Meyler, Clucas, Hudd, Maloney, Gros, Marko, Goebals, N' Dia,

Dio, Hernandez, Mbok, Niasse.

21, but only 20 available on a match day.

That looks about the same to me. It would also look better with Bruce still there.
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So this "We haven't bulked out the squad, we've reduced it." wasn't true then, glad we got that one sorted. <laugh>
 
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Hull City
25 Squad players (*=Home grown)
*Clucas, Samuel Raymond
*Davies, Curtis
*Dawson, Michael Richard
Diomande, Valentin Adama
Eissa, Ahmed Elmehamady Abdelfattah Aly
*Elabdellaoui, Omar
Evandro, Goebel
Grosicki, Kamil Pawel
Henriksen, Markus
Hernandez Platero, Abel Mathias
*Huddlestone, Thomas Andrew
Jakupovic, Eldin
*Maguire, Harry
Maloney, Shaun Richard
Markovic, Lazar
Marshall, David
*Mason, Ryan Glen
Mbokani Bezua, Dieudonne
Meyler, David
N'Diaye, Alfred John Momar
Niasse, Baye Oumar
*Odubajo, Moses Adeshina Ayoola Junior
Ranocchia, Andrea
Robertson, Andrew

Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars)
Akbas, Stephen Adam
Andrew, Charlie Alfred
Annan, William John
Barkworth, Ellis
Batty, Daniel Thomas
Bowen, Jarrod
Chadwick, William Anthony
Clackstone, Joshua Philip
Clark, Max Oliver
Curry, Adam
Dunkerley, Charlie
Edwards, Jonathan Dvonte
Fleming, Brandon James
Hamilton, Tyler Lee
Hinchliffe, Benjamin Jack
Holmes, Elliot Charles
Kelledy, Marc Thomas Michael
Lofts, Luke
Mannion, William John
Maslen-Jones, Bradley
McKenzie, Robbie
Olley, Greg Thomas
Ritson, Lewis Barry Ryan
Rodgers, Harvey James
Salam, Ahmed Mamdoh Abdel
Saltmer, Jonathan David
Sheaf, Max
Ter Horst, Johan
Thacker, Joshua
Tymon, Joshua Lewis
Weir, James Michael
Wilson-Rhiney, Mason Alexander
 
ImperialTiger said:
Hull City
25 Squad players (*=Home grown)
*Clucas, Samuel Raymond
*Davies, Curtis
*Dawson, Michael Richard
Diomande, Valentin Adama
Eissa, Ahmed Elmehamady Abdelfattah Aly
*Elabdellaoui, Omar
Evandro, Goebel
Grosicki, Kamil Pawel
Henriksen, Markus
Hernandez Platero, Abel Mathias
*Huddlestone, Thomas Andrew
Jakupovic, Eldin
*Maguire, Harry
Maloney, Shaun Richard
Markovic, Lazar
Marshall, David
*Mason, Ryan Glen
Mbokani Bezua, Dieudonne
Meyler, David
N'Diaye, Alfred John Momar
Niasse, Baye Oumar
*Odubajo, Moses Adeshina Ayoola Junior
Ranocchia, Andrea
Robertson, Andrew

Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars)
Akbas, Stephen Adam
Andrew, Charlie Alfred
Annan, William John
Barkworth, Ellis
Batty, Daniel Thomas
Bowen, Jarrod
Chadwick, William Anthony
Clackstone, Joshua Philip
Clark, Max Oliver
Curry, Adam
Dunkerley, Charlie
Edwards, Jonathan Dvonte
Fleming, Brandon James
Hamilton, Tyler Lee
Hinchliffe, Benjamin Jack
Holmes, Elliot Charles
Kelledy, Marc Thomas Michael
Lofts, Luke
Mannion, William John
Maslen-Jones, Bradley
McKenzie, Robbie
Olley, Greg Thomas
Ritson, Lewis Barry Ryan
Rodgers, Harvey James
Salam, Ahmed Mamdoh Abdel
Saltmer, Jonathan David
Sheaf, Max
Ter Horst, Johan
Thacker, Joshua
Tymon, Joshua Lewis
Weir, James Michael
Wilson-Rhiney, Mason Alexander
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I suspected Kuciak would be sacrificed, though Luer and Leniham both being out with Moses and Mason left in is a bit of a surprise.
 
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