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Bigelow said:
You're incredibly arrogant.

You ever thought people may have multiple opinions on different matters.

For example -

- I think the style of football and the work that Silva has done is amazing.
- Great choice by the Allam's to bring in Silva.
- The Allam's lack of impetus in the transfer window is concerning with the current injuries and lack of depth we have.
- Selling 2 of our better players mid relegation battle towards the end of the window for 60-70% of what their market value should be and replacing them with loanees is a concerning move for the long term future of the club.
- Unfortunatley time is of the essence and there is every reason to feel anxiety when we are about 5/6 players short of where we need to be. Based on previous trasnfer window the Allam's where quite content on letting us start a season with a vastly under strengthened squad so there is previous there too.
- Through your own admission these deals take a long time to go through. Every reason to feel concern when there are only 4 days left of the window. And still 3-4 deals to go through.
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Off The Line said:
I think you mean positive and you only stated that when pushed into it.
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When talking about a specific issue. Why would I shoe horn another subject into the post.

By that standard. Every time I write something positive I have to counter balance it with a negative and every time I write some negative I have to counter balance it with a positive.
 
Bigelow said:
When talking about a specific issue. Why would I shoe horn another subject into the post.

By that standard. Every time I write something positive I have to counter balance it with a negative and every time I write some negative I have to counter balance it with a positive.
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You certainly are a beacon of positivity.
 
Off The Line said:
I think they're not starting a bidding war for Snodgrass just to get the funds in quicker, but what do I know.
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It looks as if the only 'bidding war' had a ceiling of £10million. 3 clubs reached it - Burnley, then Boro, then (finally) West Ham. Talking personal terms, Spam had the best offer...

Nothing more for the Club in that - the only 'bidding war' was in the personal terms.
 
Im sure this has already been talked about but can we please put the Allam hate (regarding transfers) to rest. When it was announced that we've accepted bids for Livermore and Snodgrass most ppl jump on the owners back before knowing the facts.

Now the truth is out about how Snodgrass made it clear to Silva and the owners that he wanted to leave. Forget the guessing games that he only wanted to leave because of lack of contract talks etc... We dont know the reasons we just know he wanted to leave. For all we know it was the same with Livermore.

I still like to think that Ehab's comments about us not being a selling club are true. But when the player wants to leave and we get ok/good money.. it makes sense to sell and move on.
 
I like what Silva's done with the team, but I'm so confident about us not getting more injuries.

hullborn said:
We dont know the reasons we just know he wanted to leave. For all we know it was the same with Livermore.
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That's complete speculation about Livermore.
 
hullborn said:
Im sure this has already been talked about but can we please put the Allam hate (regarding transfers) to rest. When it was announced that we've accepted bids for Livermore and Snodgrass most ppl jump on the owners back before knowing the facts.

Now the truth is out about how Snodgrass made it clear to Silva and the owners that he wanted to leave. Forget the guessing games that he only wanted to leave because of lack of contract talks etc... We dont know the reasons we just know he wanted to leave. For all we know it was the same with Livermore.

I still like to think that Ehab's comments about us not being a selling club are true. But when the player wants to leave and we get ok/good money.. it makes sense to sell and move on.
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I don't think there's been 'Allam hate' regarding transfers.
I do think there has been people criticising one or more decisions they've made. Certainly I have
I still feel they've made a mistake selling Snodgrass, and I also think the way that Ehab has apparently gone about dealing with his contract discussions is incompetent and will, if true, have made him more likely to want to leave
Personally I would have actually spoken to him ages ago, and if he asked to leave told him that we wouldn't sell him this window but would let him go with our best wishes in the summer regardless of relegation or not
And Ehab went much further than just saying we're not a selling club. He said 'There is no appetite to sell players. They are our best assets and we are in a survival fight. We do not want to weaken the team and we are focused on making additions'
So that's doesn't explain selling Livermore days later, and doesn't explain why there was no competent effort to keep Snodgrass or why he didn't simply tell him he was staying (would have lost a little value by the Summer but it would have been worth it)
....so nothing put to rest for me, but it's too simplistic to call it 'Allam hate'
 
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Bigelow said:
The quicker you sign players, the more games they can play, the stronger the team is, the more games we can win. In a team that before the transfer window was crying out for players and has since sold 2 players (subject to SNodgrass deal going through).

It isn't rocket science.

Seems like hipsters choice is to be contrary at the moment. A sense of superiority in defying logic.
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Defying logic is committing yourself to spend more than you can currently budget for. After all this club has been through and everyone's ultimate wish to see a certain pair gone.

If we had a big fat sack full of cash you might have a point but we are very ****ing far from it.
 
Bigelow said:
There is tangible concern for the depth of the playing squad and knowing how long these moves take it gets even more concerning with time running out. You quite clearly have taken the stance of being contrary to the popular consenious with arrogance.

This isn't a swipe at the Allam's it a swipe at common sense and logic irregardless of the owner.
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It's a swipe at the Allams because common sense and logic screams DONT SPEND MORE ****ING MONEY THAN YOU HAVE!!!!
 
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Bigelow said:
You're incredibly arrogant.

You ever thought people may have multiple opinions on different matters.

For example -

- I think the style of football and the work that Silva has done is amazing.
- Great choice by the Allam's to bring in Silva.
- The Allam's lack of impetus in the transfer window is concerning with the current injuries and lack of depth we have.
- Selling 2 of our better players mid relegation battle towards the end of the window for 60-70% of what their market value should be and replacing them with loanees is a concerning move for the long term future of the club.
- Unfortunatley time is of the essence and there is every reason to feel anxiety when we are about 5/6 players short of where we need to be. Based on previous trasnfer window the Allam's where quite content on letting us start a season with a vastly under strengthened squad so there is previous there too.
- Through your own admission these deals take a long time to go through. Every reason to feel concern when there are only 4 days left of the window. And still 3-4 deals to go through.
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5 or 6 players short!!!

We now have a full 25 man squad which is full with seniors!!! Which 6 positions do we need to sign players for and which 6 players do we drop to accommodate them?

Really. You're just making this **** up as you go along. Common sense and logic indeed... <doh>
 
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