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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
TootingExcess said:
Don't think we need to wait for Article 50 to be voted down to get a Hard Right/UKIP government - we have that already. Don't think there's any difference between what Farage wanted and May is delivering, she has gone right rather than try and reach out to the left of her party and the country - I suspect many of the pro-European One Nation Tory voters will go with the Lib Dems. 48% of the electorate getting ignored and disillusioned don't really have any other choice than them.

UKIP look like they know the Tories have outflanked them, and are going down the working class populist route - especially in the North - where I think they'll take a lot of Labour votes of people who don't buy Corbyn's Hard Left agenda. Don't really see what Labour stand for hereon in.

That said we need to invoke the article 50 and jump off the cliff/fly to paradise sooner rather than later; any else is just delaying the inevitable
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Agree about UKIP and Labour. The Stoke by election next month will be interesting.

I don't see May had any choice. Soft Brexit meant not leaving and running into all the cherry picking objections from Europe. It would have cost us dear. Far better to negotiate with a clean slate as equal bargaining partners. Agree, let's get on with it. In the meantime, the May/Trump meeting could be productive. Big mutual interests here.
 
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GoldhawkRd said:
Agree about UKIP and Labour. The Stoke by election next month will be interesting.

I don't see May had any choice. Soft Brexit meant not leaving and running into all the cherry picking objections from Europe. It would have cost us dear. Far better to negotiate with a clean slate as equal bargaining partners. Agree, let's get on with it. In the meantime, the May/Trump meeting could be productive. Big mutual interests here.
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I wouldn't trust her to get me the best possible car insurance quote. It's bad enough that she's vile but I increasingly get the impression she's incompetent too.
 
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ELLERS said:
Probably the 'Vile acts' that the BBC/SKY or some other impartial media has brainwashed him into thinking.
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Little, if any, media is truly impartial. I like to try and form an opinion based on what I know rather than being blindly for or against someone because they wear a blue or red tie.
 
Watford_R said:
I think this is both stupid and vile in equal measure. Potentially booting out all sorts of vital workers who have been here for years because they don't earn above an arbitrary level presumably to appease Mail readers who have decided the country is about to sink under the weight of the population.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...on-eu-migrants-as-teachers-face-a6814841.html
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And to prove the point he quotes the impartial un-independent.<doh> Get me a copy of the Daily Fail as I want to read about a cure for Brexit that is only a year away.?:1980_boogie_down:
 
Watford_R said:
Which impartial source would you prefer?
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Like you I like to form an opinion after reading/watching/listening. However I know from experience that certain media are not impartial so I go elsewhere. A good example was during Brexit. I kept quoting from foreign business channels and independent writings. I wouldn't quote from the Sun as it was a Brexit paper as the Mirror was a remain. I also read some very interesting essays from academics, most of which were pro remain.
I would never refer to May as 'Vile' because she has done nothing to be called 'Vile' (yet). Now if you had said Jeremy Hunt was a @@@@ then I would agree. :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Watford_R said:
I think this is both stupid and vile in equal measure. Potentially booting out all sorts of vital workers who have been here for years because they don't earn above an arbitrary level presumably to appease Mail readers who have decided the country is about to sink under the weight of the population.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...on-eu-migrants-as-teachers-face-a6814841.html
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I agree it would be a tough law, particularly as it applies to those already here, but I foresee there would be many exceptions for those working in vital services unless easily replaced by nationals - but looking forward, the answer has to be to train up our own nationals wherever possible. It's an area where past UK governments of all colours has failed.
 
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Wouldn't every election lead to the same sort of outcome
As much as we love Europe do we want to be like Italy and have an election every year
We will never get a result that the losers like so just get on with it
 
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Highly misleading, Strolls. The 100% cake has to be those who voted, otherwise you're including children, foreigners and those who couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to go down to the polling station. The jump to who supports Hard Brexit is based presumably on a poll. And we all know how accurate polls are
 
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