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Fez said:
I'd be interested to know what those who call us a selling club thinks a selling club is - what makes any club a selling club?
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Normally 'selling club' refers to a club that regularly sells off its biggest assets, or a club which regularly manages to buy low and sell high and we've been neither of those under the Allams. The concern with many, is that this is no longer the case, but we'll find out in under two weeks.
 
Hull City AFC (GLP) said:
He's 27 and coming into his prime. That makes him 13 months older than £20m rated Championship midfielder Tom Cairney. He's also the same age as Schneiderlin. If he was in his early thirties, then yes price may well come down.

Given he's produced some of his most consistent football for the club in Midfield and defence - £10m is the club selling it's self well short versus other fees clubs are commanding for their players.

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/a-stat...ke-livermore/story-30071581-detail/story.html

Have a look at his stats in the link above and tell me we won't miss him.

**Edit** You'll struggle to buy a replacement that brings as much to the team as Livermore for £10m.
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The bold bit is really all that matters here.

People always get excited when we sell someone for big money. I remember when we sold Shane Long everyone was giddy because 'we' were getting £12m. But the fact is you have to replace these players, and getting someone just as good to replace them tends to cost just as much. We spent almost all of that fee on Hernandez which turned out awfully for that first year. If we do sign someone to replace Jake it'll be a gamble and most of our gambles don't really pay off, but people are always excited at first and think we've got a great deal. Remember Mbokani was considered really good after his first couple of games.

We can't really criticise the club for accepting the offer, because it seems to be the way football works that if a player wants to go they end up going. Maybe it's because clubs know they won't be as committed if forced to stay. Ehab did say something to that effect the other day, and it certainly gave the impression that he knew there were some who did want to go.

The obvious way this could have been avoided lies in what has already been done. Livermore and everyone else have always seemed happy here. But Diame openly stated the reason he left was that he came back after pre-season training and we barely had a squad. **** this he thought, I'm off. Livermore and others will have thought the same. Snodgrass going is looking more and more likely, but again I don't know what the club can do about it at this point apart from holding out for as much money as possible. Maybe if they sat any want-away players down and showed them that we're really going to seriously strengthen the squad starting now then they'd want to stay. That's assuming that's what they are going to do, which we'll find out in the next couple of weeks.
 
PLT said:
The bold bit is really all that matters here.

People always get excited when we sell someone for big money. I remember when we sold Shane Long everyone was giddy because 'we' were getting £12m. But the fact is you have to replace these players, and getting someone just as good to replace them tends to cost just as much. We spent almost all of that fee on Hernandez which turned out awfully for that first year. If we do sign someone to replace Jake it'll be a gamble and most of our gambles don't really pay off, but people are always excited at first and think we've got a great deal. Remember Mbokani was considered really good after his first couple of games.

We can't really criticise the club for accepting the offer, because it seems to be the way football works that if a player wants to go they end up going. Maybe it's because clubs know they won't be as committed if forced to stay. Ehab did say something to that effect the other day, and it certainly gave the impression that he knew there were some who did want to go.

The obvious way this could have been avoided lies in what has already been done. Livermore and everyone else have always seemed happy here. But Diame openly stated the reason he left was that he came back after pre-season training and we barely had a squad. **** this he thought, I'm off. Livermore and others will have thought the same. Snodgrass going is looking more and more likely, but again I don't know what the club can do about it at this point apart from holding out for as much money as possible. Maybe if they sat any want-away players down and showed them that we're really going to seriously strengthen the squad starting now then they'd want to stay. That's assuming that's what they are going to do, which we'll find out in the next couple of weeks.
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I'd say that long-term Abel has been a much better player than Long was.

We could've had Deeney for £10m
 
Dills double deckers said:
ahh ..The good old undisclosed fee
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If silva wanted to keep livermore i doubt he would have got sold any player that is sold now will be because silva does not need them does not matter wether we are a selling club or not the important part is that silva is able to bring in the players he requires to keep us up which is what he was brought here to do.
 
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