Mike's done one.

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Yep this is spot on. People can go on about formations and players being in their 'correct' positions but this is something far more important. If you lack certain skills you're ****ed. And a striker who can get behind defences is one of the most important. Even if all it does it put defences under a bit more pressure. When we clear the ball out we need someone chasing the lost causes at speed. Often they're not lost causes after all. Defences playing against us are way too comfortable. Even if it just forces them into a backpass rather than launching it straight back into our box which is still full of players from the previous attack; just getting that time for our defence to get out and re-organise is very important.

Everton was a perfect example. Wave after wave and then eventually of course we concede the equaliser. You can hold an inquiry into why we didn't defend the 45th cross into the box but why where there so many? Because every time we cleared it there was no pressure on their defenders picking it up and sending it straight back again. We were pinned back.

Which is why I have always qualified my formation/position discussions with the fact that I believe such things can get in the way of football, which is principally player attributes, first, how they are used second. As a club we have made this mistake consistently under Bruce and Phelan. Don't ask what we achieved because of them, ask what we achieved despite them. Although that doesn't detract from the credit they earned for their successes.
 
Yep this is spot on. People can go on about formations and players being in their 'correct' positions but this is something far more important. If you lack certain skills you're ****ed. And a striker who can get behind defences is one of the most important. Even if all it does it put defences under a bit more pressure. When we clear the ball out we need someone chasing the lost causes at speed. Often they're not lost causes after all. Defences playing against us are way too comfortable. Even if it just forces them into a backpass rather than launching it straight back into our box which is still full of players from the previous attack; just getting that time for our defence to get out and re-organise is very important.

Everton was a perfect example. Wave after wave and then eventually of course we concede the equaliser. You can hold an inquiry into why we didn't defend the 45th cross into the box but why where there so many? Because every time we cleared it there was no pressure on their defenders picking it up and sending it straight back again. We were pinned back.

Correct! You will also not find a slower centre back partnership than Williams & Jagielka - unfortunately you won't find a slower front two than Mbokani and Diomande!
 
The good news where the Jak is concerned, is that he has two games to show off to the new boss before Bournemouth.. Swansea and Manure first leg... Come on Jak..!!!!
 
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Don`t particularly think Huth and Morgan would give Bolt a run for his money either !

I'll give you that one! In fact there are quite a few slow centre back partnerships - we're not blessed with pace there either. Just goes to show there are teams to be exploited in this department!
 
Pace at the back is only an issue when playing a high line and a hard pressing game.

Well disciplined defenders knowing when to press on and when to drop off is perfectly fine.

Davies isn't particularly slow anyway.
 
Crikey.. I bet this mornings cold snap was a bit of a wake up call... along with our impressive facilities...

...as they all looked at each other whispering - 'i thought we'd come to Hull City...I can't see any mention of the name...i think someones pulling a fast one!'
 
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...as they all looked at each other whispering - 'i thought we'd come to Hull City...I can't see any mention of the name...i think someones pulling a fast one!'

or to be more accurate...'
Pensé que habíamos llegado a Hull City ... no puedo ver ninguna mención del nombre ... creo que someones tirando un rápido'