No, they should let British people decide their future because they very recently voted to be a part of Britain![]()
I think you'll find Wales voted Leave as well... don't put all the blame on us!
No, they should let British people decide their future because they very recently voted to be a part of Britain![]()
The Wales margin would've made no difference to the Scotland result. It was the English vote that decided the vote.
1,018,322 people in Scotland voted leave (not far off the total that won the vote), who knows how many Scotts living across the British isles voted the same way.Based upon false promises by David Cameron and the Tory party.
The Wales margin would've made no difference to the Scotland result. It was the English vote that decided the vote.
Based upon false promises by David Cameron and the Tory party.
The Wales margin would've made no difference to the Scotland result. It was the English vote that decided the vote.
I think the Remain people are really focusing on the wrong battle and missing a massive trick here.
1) The referendum was advisory not necessarily binding. There will be a vote in parliament involving MPs
2) The referendum was rightly done on a national vote but the flaw in that process is the fact there are constituencies that MPs represent which means that there will be MPs who were leaning towards Remain and may have a majority of their constituents wanting to remain.
3) IF the constituents petition their MP en mass then surely their MP will be under pressure to represent his constituents?
In short, I think the Remain campaigners will be better off using their energy towards this goal. BUT, it should be a concerted, well organised strategy involving a collaborative approach up and down the country if it's to have any real impact.
How very British... I am so angry.. why, I shall write a letter sir.

I think the Remain people are really focusing on the wrong battle and missing a massive trick here.
1) The referendum was advisory not necessarily binding. There will be a vote in parliament involving MPs
2) The referendum was rightly done on a national vote but the flaw in that process is the fact there are constituencies that MPs represent which means that there will be MPs who were leaning towards Remain and may have a majority of their constituents wanting to remain.
3) IF the constituents petition their MP en mass then surely their MP will be under pressure to represent his/her constituents?
In short, I think the Remain campaigners will be better off using their energy towards this goal. BUT, it should be a concerted, well organised strategy involving a collaborative approach up and down the country if it's to have any real impact.
Maybe, but didn't far more constituencies vote Leave than Remain?
I wonder how many more remainers will get off their fat lazy arses and vote instead of thinking it's a foregone conclusion.It wasn't reported as consituencies. For example the whole of Birmingham was reported as one figure, but the city comprises of 10 separate consituencies iirc.
Plus, I wonder how many Leave voters have changed their mind now?
I wonder how many more remainers will get off their fat lazy arses and vote instead of thinking it's a foregone conclusion.
So many people now whinging that it's all the leavers fault (not you Trebs) instead of blaming the so called majority that couldn't be arsed or were too thick to vote.
It wasn't reported as consituencies. For example the whole of Birmingham was reported as one figure, but the city comprises of 10 separate consituencies iirc.
I think the Remain people are really focusing on the wrong battle and missing a massive trick here.
1) The referendum was advisory not necessarily binding. There will be a vote in parliament involving MPs
2) The referendum was rightly done on a national vote but the flaw in that process is the fact there are constituencies that MPs represent which means that there will be MPs who were leaning towards Remain and may have a majority of their constituents wanting to remain.
3) IF the constituents petition their MP en mass then surely their MP will be under pressure to represent his constituents?
In short, I think the Remain campaigners will be better off using their energy towards this goal. BUT, it should be a concerted, well organised strategy involving a collaborative approach up and down the country if it's to have any real impact.
I wonder how many more remainers will get off their fat lazy arses and vote instead of thinking it's a foregone conclusion.
So many people now whinging that it's all the leavers fault (not you Trebs) instead of blaming the so called majority that couldn't be arsed or were too thick to vote.

I hadn't seen that - I just saw the large number of areas and assumed it was constituencies. Still, more areas voted leave than remain, so you'd assume that that would probably also be the same at the constituency level.
Plus, I wonder how many Leave voters have changed their mind now?
Sadly, probably not as many as some would want us to believe...

Wasn't there a case in the Gordon Brown election that he won the public vote nationally but lost the GE on constituency? I think in some constituencies there might be a disporportionately high Leave vote which is all gravy in a referendum, but actually takes away from the 17m at constituency level. It's why our democracy is so ****ed![]()
Wasn't there a case in the Gordon Brown election that he won the public vote nationally but lost the GE on constituency? I think in some constituencies there might be a disporportionately high Leave vote which is all gravy in a referendum, but actually takes away from the 17m at constituency level. It's why our democracy is so ****ed
Also as Diego says, it's time for the lazy arse ****ers who didn't vote to do their bit and actually petition their MPs instead of roaming around Westminster wasting their time with placards.
Also as Diego says, it's time for the lazy arse ****ers who didn't vote to do their bit and actually petition their MPs instead of roaming around Westminster wasting their time with placards.