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Off Topic YOUR VOTE COUNTED...

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 27, 2016.

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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. IN

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. OUT

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. DON'T KNOW

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
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  1. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I have to say I'm quite impressed with Andrea Leadsom from the little I've seen and heard from her.
     
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  2. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Based upon false promises by David Cameron and the Tory party.

    The Wales margin would've made no difference to the Scotland result. It was the English vote that decided the vote.
     
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  3. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    So did the English, but they still complained when Welsh & Scottish MPs were voting on their laws. Well done.
     
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  4. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    So what you're essentially saying is that Wales is irrelevant?
     
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  5. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    1,018,322 people in Scotland voted leave (not far off the total that won the vote), who knows how many Scotts living across the British isles voted the same way.
     
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  6. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I think the Remain people are really focusing on the wrong battle and missing a massive trick here.

    1) The referendum was advisory not necessarily binding. There will be a vote in parliament involving MPs

    2) The referendum was rightly done on a national vote but the flaw in that process is the fact there are constituencies that MPs represent which means that there will be MPs who were leaning towards Remain and may have a majority of their constituents wanting to remain.

    3) IF the constituents petition their MP en mass then surely their MP will be under pressure to represent his/her constituents?

    In short, I think the Remain campaigners will be better off using their energy towards this goal. BUT, it should be a concerted, well organised strategy involving a collaborative approach up and down the country if it's to have any real impact.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    How very British... I am so angry.. why, I shall write a letter sir.
     
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  8. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Have you ever written to your MP.... especially on a point they tend to agree with? It really isn't wasted. Then imagine tens of thousands doing the same in your constituency. Trust me, they want to hold on to their job as much as anyone come GE next year <ok>
     
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  9. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Maybe, but didn't far more constituencies vote Leave than Remain?
     
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  10. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    It wasn't reported as consituencies. For example the whole of Birmingham was reported as one figure, but the city comprises of 10 separate consituencies iirc.

    Plus, I wonder how many Leave voters have changed their mind now?
     
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  11. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    I wonder how many more remainers will get off their fat lazy arses and vote instead of thinking it's a foregone conclusion.
    So many people now whinging that it's all the leavers fault (not you Trebs) instead of blaming the so called majority that couldn't be arsed or were too thick to vote.
     
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  12. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I despise them more than the leave voters (who I actually don't blame at all for actioning their democratic right even if I do disagree with it).
     
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  13. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    I hadn't seen that - I just saw the large number of areas and assumed it was constituencies. Still, more areas voted leave than remain, so you'd assume that that would probably also be the same at the constituency level.

    Plus, I wonder how many Leave voters have changed their mind now?[/QUOTE]

    Sadly, probably not as many as some would want us to believe...
     
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  14. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Its happened now, there are massive divisions in the country that cannot be repaired. Even Boris Johnson knows this, its why he hasn't tried to run for PM.

    The likes of Britain First, the EDL, UKIP & other similar groups have got exactly what they've wanted. The years of campaigning against ethnic and religious minorities in the country has finally resulted in turning a big portion of the country against them. We've all seen the countless videos of the racist verbal abuse people have had to deal with since the referendum, how long until this verbal abuse turns into physical abuse? And until we have groups of people going round physically abusing foreigners because they feel the vote has given them licence to do so?
     
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  15. Zanjinho

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    Them non-voters are absolute ****ing dicks...
















    ... <whistle>
     
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  16. Treble

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    Wasn't there a case in the Gordon Brown election that he won the public vote nationally but lost the GE on constituency? I think in some constituencies there might be a disporportionately high Leave vote which is all gravy in a referendum, but actually takes away from the 17m at constituency level. It's why our democracy is so ****ed <laugh>

    Also as Diego says, it's time for the lazy arse ****ers who didn't vote to do their bit and actually petition their MPs instead of roaming around Westminster wasting their time with placards.
     
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  17. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    :grin:
     
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  18. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Possible, but 270 local areas for Leave compared to 129 for Remain doesn't sound promising...
     
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  19. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather people not vote if they don't understand the consequences of their vote, though. This is how we ended up having a leave majority, people who have been brainwashed by the S*n to hate foreigners...
     
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  20. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    It would take some heavy petiitoning to get an MP in an area that backed Leave to vote Remain in parliament.
     
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