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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

  • IN

    Votes: 28 43.8%

  • OUT

    Votes: 34 53.1%

  • DON'T KNOW

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
Both are horrible ****s, at least one of them will bite the dust when the people have voted.

On a personal level I hope its Johnson but if the **** hits the fan there's always the consolation of watching Cameron grovel trying to hang onto his job in the aftermath.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
I am going to call this one.

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I ignore averaged polls and polls in papers with agendas. Both have tainted views.

I have gone back to yougov.co.uk for their poll.

On the 6th June this was 43% stay 42% leave and on 10th was 42% stay 43% leave

This I feel this is the best indicator of the solid vote, thus we are talking about a really close call

Sad to include this but on the 16th Jo Cox was murdered and on the 18th the scumbag bade is message clear in court. since then I can't be sure about polls. there are a few polls not so affects and some swinging heavily to stay which should be ignored.

there have been several widely swinging pools as outliers that I'd not even look at but my GUESS would be we will see 51/52% remain.

I base this on 3 things

1. Undecideds are probably not going to all vote. frankly all thats going to do is take a large swathe of votes out of the system so there will be a very tight outcome.

2. The vote for leave is considered hard and fast. if its 42/45% then you'd expect it to be very very close to 50% on the day.

3. The common sense factor. After all the bull is said and done and its time to vote there's enough there to take pause on and floods of immigrants in the NHS is not really as direct an experience or threat as the pay packet issues.

51% Stay 49% leave.
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looks like my guess was close. I said 51/52% then fudged it to 51% it'll be interesting cos frnakly exit polls and dangerous and will encourage a lot out to vote one way or the other.
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...st-who-will-win-results-populus-a7097261.html

The final opinion poll ahead of today's EU referendum has given the Remain campaign a 10-point lead over Leave.

The Populus poll, carried out online and before voting opened, shows remain on 55 per cent and leave on 45.

Those results are by far the strongest for Remain among the final polls. Almost all of the major polling organisations showed remain ahead, but many did so within the margin of error for political surveys.

The scale of the lead has led some polling experts to say that a Remain result is now highly likely. A Leave result now would be a "far far bigger polling disaster" than the general election, when much of the polling industry was embarrassed by failing to predict the Conservative majority, said election analyst Mike Smithson.


Good news if accurate, lets see though. Hopefully common sense prevails.
 
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Don't know how much of an impact the thunderstorms and flooding down south are having on the amount of voters going to their polling stations but it seems lots have so far stayed at home and some designated polling stations are closed due to flooding.
 
Dunno but I think there will be protests on it.

I think it'll be interesting to see the actual count as my most optimistic view way back was 55% and right now I think it should be closer.
 
I think it will be a Remain win as most people are scared of any alternative. Whether the EU survives the next ten years is another matter as basically Germany is propping the whole Eurozone up at present.
 
Garlic Klopp said:
I think it will be a Remain win as most people are scared of any alternative. Whether the EU survives the next ten years is another matter as basically Germany is propping the whole Eurozone up at present.
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I agree and hope we're both right. The EU may fall apart, but we won't be seen as the pariahs that caused it.
 
Garlic Klopp said:
I think it will be a Remain win as most people are scared of any alternative. Whether the EU survives the next ten years is another matter as basically Germany is propping the whole Eurozone up at present.
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well... yes, though it is germany's own fault for silly lending and the rest of the eu is propping up german banks as well so its a house of cards...

however.. standing to one side with own currency means we get the benefits of market and can say told you so to their faces.
 
Jenny Watson, who chairs the Electoral Commission, is the person who will be tasked with announcing the result of the EU referendum on Friday at Manchester Town Hall, "around breakfast time".

Why the **** is it being announced from ****ing there? <grr>
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
well... yes, though it is germany's own fault for silly lending and the rest of the eu is propping up german banks as well so its a house of cards...

however.. standing to one side with own currency means we get the benefits of market and can say told you so to their faces.
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Unfortunately when the EU collapses we will not be immune as we will be so tied into it, even though we are not in the Euro. We may well come out of it better than some countries as we, at present, have a stronger economy with less unemployment than most of the EU.

The more scary aspect will be what Russia does when it sees the EU in trouble, I suspect they will do whatever they can to hasten its demise so it can pick through the pieces either by a Crimea type act, or just by economic power.

Whatever the result of the referendum I think there are some very interesting and downright scary things to come if we are not careful.
 
Red Hadron Collider said:
Jenny Watson, who chairs the Electoral Commission, is the person who will be tasked with announcing the result of the EU referendum on Friday at Manchester Town Hall, "around breakfast time".

Why the **** is it being announced from ****ing there? <grr>
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Centre of the media universe now that BBC are there.

I suspect it is because it is deemed to be in the middle of the UK so as not to show a London bias. As most of London will vote to remain could you imagine the result being celebrated by a load of chinless wonder bankers, I might have misspelt that last word, who make a fortune from the corruption that is rife in the EU.

Not what Cameron would want as he tells us to "all pull together", just that some of us are doing all the rowing whilst others get the benefit.
 
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