Probably on Scotland but I felt it was 10/20 years min. I will bet you the SNP will go all in and say they'll adopt the euro etc. NI problem is they can't agree on anything. There is zero chance of a united ireland. They would even bottle going on their own as a minor eu state. As I said who cares about Gibralter.... nobody.
Scotland would not be a net contributor to the EU budget so I can't see the attraction of letting them in, coupled with the fact that many EU countries will be less inclined to encourage break away movements given their own related problems with countries like Spain.
I agree...but then they've done that while in the EU in favour of finance and service sectors. So four more years if we think the Tories won't step up? (If no election before that) then we vote them out...and if we don't then it's like all the Remainers that didn't turn up yesterday...we deserve what we get...
There was no appetite for adopting the euro at the last referendum amongst voters and don't see why that would change now. And overall it's more important to Scotland to be part of the U.K. than the EU. At worst the situation will be that the UK government guarantees the funding Scotland currently gets from the EU to settle them down.
Yeah getting accepted into the EU wouldn't be nearly as easy for them as a solo country as the SNP like to make out
This was exactly my next thought. It's so important that Johnson and Gove are not Prime Minister and cabinet minister months from now. I for one don't trust either as far as I can throw them. They're already backpeddling from the lies they were promising just 36 hours ago. I am sure they have their right wing agenda and that includes the NHS and schools. Can you also imagine what a complete balls up they'll make of the renegotiation for exiting the EU.
With Cameron stepping aside it appears Boris is the natural successor given the potential candidates and their popularity and positions within the party and it is highly likely Gove will be given a top position within Boris cabinet, he might even give him Osbournes job.. Nothing we can do as voters about that until 2020 when we will have the opportunity to remove them. If Corbyn manages to survive that long though I think Boris could probably win an election, though I doubt Corbyn will last very long given the current political landscape.
That's not necessarily the case with the Tories. Michael Hesseltine seemed the natural successor to Thatcher but Tories don't seem to like voting for the guy who twisted the knife. I bet there are many Tories who may have got into bed with Johnson for a shared common purpose against the EU, but in all other ways may have a serious dislike for him, particularly the "establishment". Gove is just a sniveling runt who was bullied too much in the toilets of the public school he attended. Best case scenario... DAVID DAVIES - A "Leave" campaigner and a proper politician with some modicom of common decency! Ideal for the Tories to get behind collectively and tbh someone who will do a damn sight better job of getting the economy and our exit from the EU properly on track.
What are the odds on Priti Patel? Maybe too young bit shes: A woman Brexiteer Ethnic If they want to distance themselves from the whole racist man love of the campaign...and it she wasn't as prominent as Gove or Johnson in Knifing Cameron... Must look it up in bookies lol...
For me the best option would be Jacob Rees-Mogg - absolute legend of a politician, but I don't think he would want the job, he's more of a "get on with doing a proper job as an MP" type politician than a front end lead the way and say the popular thing to win an election type which most leaders of political parties seem to have an element of. He's not a hugely charismatic person in the way you'd expect a leader to be, but he is my favourite conservative MP for sure.
I was only comparing the good fortune of the old when they were at university with the hardships of today's young rather than merits of the EU.
Yep, fair enough EDIT.........I edited this answer because after I read it I didn't think it conveyed what I really meant to say
Amazing praise from Boris and Gove for Cameron today. Great pm , lots of dignity, good judgement and leader of men etc. All the vitriol that was being flung onto him only a day before before now forgotten:" he is deluded, demented, scare mongering, peddling lies, exaggerating and promoting fear etc." The capacity of politicians to change their opinions at short notice to the exact opposite never ceases to amaze me.
TBF I think his leaving speech today is the best I have ever seen him perform. If he had been as honest and forthright throughout his campaign he may have swung a remain vote.
THE IRONY IS HERE IS THAT IF WE STILL HAD A DECENT MANUFACTURING BASE IT COULD BENEFIT FROM THE NOW HUGE GAP THAT WILL BE OPENING UP BY THE HUGE HIKE ON IMPORTED GOODS THAT A FREEFALLING POUND WILL CREATE. BUT THANKS TO ****S LIKE THATCHER, MINFORD AND FRIEDMAN IN THE 80'S WE DON'T. AND THOSE RE-BADGING CAR COMPENENT ASSEMBLERS THAT WE CALL FACTORIES WILL **** OFF SOON TOO. AND THEY (BREXITERS) TURNED TO MINFORD TO SAY 'WE HAVE AN EXPERT ECONOMIST TOO'. (SORRY FOR THE CAPS - IN WORK AND THE KEYBOARD IS ****ED FOR NOW).
Actually he comes across as having some principles. He distanced himself from some of the ****e the Out campaigners were spouting and he gained a bit of respect from me during the campaign in at least trying to keep the debate honest. But I still think David Davis is the more experienced and capable politician who imo has the courage of his convictions. His stance on not bombing foreign countries was one good example of that.
Not sure on the truth of these claims, but if even half of them are correct it places a better view on the leave vote. http://www.betteroffout.net/the-case/10-eu-myths-about-withdrawl/
