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This is really not a huge surprise...Danny Rose has been suffering from depression. He's been a bit all over the place in the last year and a half and gives the impression of being troubled by some aspects of an extremely high profile career where there's a lot of harsh criticism to deal with at times, added to some significant personal problems.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44392337
I've suffered from depression throughout my adult life and wouldn't wish it on anyone. I hope he's on the mend soon but informing his parents of his problems via the media and putting his head in the racist Russian lion's mouth gives a fair indication that he's still a little way off clear thinking, as yet.
Obviously, Gareth Southgate knew of his illness and believes that he's up to the job. I very much hope that the WC is cathartic for him and he continues to make progress in dealing with his illness. Good luck and health, Danny.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44392337
I've suffered from depression throughout my adult life and wouldn't wish it on anyone. I hope he's on the mend soon but informing his parents of his problems via the media and putting his head in the racist Russian lion's mouth gives a fair indication that he's still a little way off clear thinking, as yet.
Obviously, Gareth Southgate knew of his illness and believes that he's up to the job. I very much hope that the WC is cathartic for him and he continues to make progress in dealing with his illness. Good luck and health, Danny.
I wish you nothing but good things, Brian. Danny Rose has my good wishes as well. As to his speaking out about racism in Russia: I think it's a moral issue and he's absolutely on the right side of it. It may not be wise to speak out from the point of view of the individual, but from the point of view of right and wrong, the problem is that not enough people and organizations are willing to stand up and be counted.
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Depression is a dreadful place to be and it can influence your every emotion and reaction, so thoughts go out to the lad - and all who have to battle with it.
My major reservation around Rose is his only slightly masked criticism of the club and colleagues.
‘Things were said and things happened behind the scenes at my club, and I don't want to go into any detail because I'll end up being fined again," he said this week.’
He has chosen this week to resurrect a couple of significant events in his life and laid his emotional state bare for all to see. As you say, hopefully he will find this to be a cathartic experience to assist his recovery. The risk is that the timing will bring a malevolent focus on him both on and off the pitch, which will disrupt the campaign.
Someone has to bring the matter to a head, I support him 100%. He's told his family not to travel and he is prepared for any flack that comes his way. Good on him, well done Danny, you are back to being called Danny, by me at least, no longer DOF.
I've done this in my own personal life. Depression often leads to obsessing about things that have negative connotations for you and feeling that you need to address them to get well. The counselling that I've had strongly concentrates on working towards stopping negative thinking and shelving issues that can be shelved in the short and medium term because you're not thinking clearly and are poorly placed to deal with the fallout. When you're more stable, longer term therapy can be utilised to deal with those issues. I'm pretty sure that blurting them out to the media in advance of the most talked about event in the world wouldn't come recommended.
He did this with the wages issue last summer. He may have felt that he had the support of his team mates but nobody else stepped up and said a dickie bird and he faced the consequences alone. It really hasn't been good for him in any way. He's still talking about it now and has said about possibly being fined again, although I've heard that he wasn't fined at all because the club knew about his depression.
Now, he's tilting at the windmill of the racism in Russia. Yes, what he's said is 100% right but it is going to direct a huge focus on him that, right now, he would do best to avoid, if at all possible. It will be interesting to see how many of his England team mates speak out publicly to support him.....and whether the Liverpool ones get some t-shirts printed......sorry, but I couldn't resist it.
I'd recommend that he keep the counsel of his closest and dearest. Keep his head down and concentrate on playing his football and doing stuff that he enjoys. Cut out the huge stories in the media and some good professional help and the passing of time should set him back on the right road. Good luck to him.
Gareth Southgate has already come out in support of him, good on you Gareth. Come on the rest of the team, the FA and anyone else in a position of power.
I think most of us have been there. It is always better to bring it out into the open. Initially with your nearest and dearest but eventually with everyone. That's why both you and I Brian can mention it on here. If Danny Rose is using the press to help him broadcast his feelings and letting the whole world know then good for him, he is on the mend. Lets just pray for him and hope that he does his talking on the pitch as well. Another one of those amazing Ar5ena1 volleys, but against the Russians if we get a chance to play them, would be wonderful medicine.
Amen, brother. I believe that honesty is the best policy about mental illness, providing that he's at a stage where he can deal with what could come out of it all, over in Russia. There will be ethnicities from all over the world at the World Cup and everyone knows of the history of racism over there but the focus will currently be on one man. That's my one concern. This story is going to run all over the world. It's about the timing. If he's strong enough, then fair play to him.
I hope our media leave him alone for a while now and he can get on with being the best left back at the tournament. It should be all about the football.
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Costa Rica have brought on Ian Smith at Elland Road
Ian Smith?
I wasn't expecting someone who sounds like he's local
Ian Smith?
I wasn't expecting someone who sounds like he's local
Costa Rica have brought on Ian Smith at Elland Road
Ian Smith?
I wasn't expecting someone who sounds like he's local
Who's next Arkwright Shufflebottom?
Been listening to a lot of radio tonight as I was driving, and clearly pundits and callers alike want to pick their world cup starting XI based only on the last match played. Being the one last night. With the exception of Sterling of course, who it doesn't matter how he plays (with the notable exception of Waddle who would have Rashford instead of Sterling).
In that case Loftus-Cheek is screwed as he was awful. As was Lingard in his small cameo. Also highlights how weak we are at left back. It was the first time I've really seen Rose play since back from injury and, while he wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, he clearly has lost so much pace and looks short of spark/confidence at the moment. At least Trippier impressed in his short spell far more than Terrence Trent Alexander-Arnold-Armstrong Darby. Just as well Costa Rica are the Best Team in the World....... Ever!
He is not in a good way on-pitch, and really only there
because of the dearth of competent England LBs
(as you said).
Bertrand impressed in 2016/17 but hasn't been too hot this season in a struggling side and also hasn't been particularly good for England either. Young is just a stop gap whose major contribution is falling over to win free-kicks and penalties. I would have just taken Ryan Sessegnon and have done with it. Nothing to lose in having him along.
Ian Rey Smith Quiros, apparently. Plays for Norrkoping as a right-back.Costa Rica have brought on Ian Smith at Elland Road
Ian Smith?
I wasn't expecting someone who sounds like he's local
When you hear the name Ian Smith you don't automatically think Costa Rican defender who plays in Sweden, do you?