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So the ref’s wrong, I’m wrong, the ex ref is wrong too. Sorry but it’s not even a debate, clear penalty

I am not having a go at you King and I respect your opinion, but using Peter Walton who was a useless ref and is even worse as a'decision reviewer' on TV to support the fact that a decision was correct is akin to using the Daily Mail to confirm that Tory party policy is correct. In my opinion it was a 50/50 decision and if the ref hadn't given it VAR would not have intervened and Peter Walton would have agreed with the ref.
 
I am not having a go at you King and I respect your opinion, but using Peter Walton who was a useless ref and is even worse as a'decision reviewer' on TV to support the fact that a decision was correct is akin to using the Daily Mail to confirm that Tory party policy is correct. In my opinion it was a 50/50 decision and if the ref hadn't given it VAR would not have intervened and Peter Walton would have agreed with the ref.
One problem with the Laws of the Game is that blatant deliberate treating goes almost unpunished whereas a genuine 50:50 challenge can lead to a penalty depending on whether the ref sees it as a foul.
 
One problem with the Laws of the Game is that blatant deliberate treating goes almost unpunished whereas a genuine 50:50 challenge can lead to a penalty depending on whether the ref sees it as a foul.

It was a clear penalty though, I don’t see how this is a debate.
 
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It was a clear penalty though, I don’t see how this is a debate.
If that is a clear penalty then the Law should be changed because the proper punishment for a mistimed challenge anywhere on the pitch should not be a penalty kick. Football is a contact sport and if you mistime a challenge it ought to be a foul but an indirect free kick should be the result. Penalties should be reserved for deliberate fouls.
 
If that is a clear penalty then the Law should be changed because the proper punishment for a mistimed challenge anywhere on the pitch should not be a penalty kick. Football is a contact sport and if you mistime a challenge it ought to be a foul but an indirect free kick should be the result. Penalties should be reserved for deliberate fouls.
Except in the penalty area.

If the same thing happens to lord Harry in your next game will you just dismiss it as a "mistimed challenge"?
 
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If that is a clear penalty then the Law should be changed because the proper punishment for a mistimed challenge anywhere on the pitch should not be a penalty kick. Football is a contact sport and if you mistime a challenge it ought to be a foul but an indirect free kick should be the result. Penalties should be reserved for deliberate fouls.

It’s not the same to foul someone in the penalty box as anywhere else on the pitch though.

A mistimed challenge or not, it’s a foul and it’s a penalty.
 
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It’s not the same to foul someone in the penalty box as anywhere else on the pitch though.

A mistimed challenge or not, it’s a foul and it’s a penalty.

Dem iz the rules.

The only issue of contention for me (once a penalty is
deemed so) is reasonable punishment of the perpetrator.
Card or no card, and if the former what colour.