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Yid Vicious said:
If sponsorship from a loan company is unethical for a club, so are gambling companies and so are alcohol sponsors who make huge profits off vulnerable addicts amongst other things. Yet every club in the Premier League(and probably the Football League) has a gambling sponsor and a beer sponsor.

Also these kind of sponsors that are trying to sell to the fans(rather than Investec and Aurasma who we have) aren't trying to get new customers for the market, rather direct customers who are already in the market to their brand/product rather than another. It's like, if you don't like ale you're not going to start drinking Newcastle Brown Ale just because your team's sponsored by them but it will probably pursuade a good portion of fans that already drink a similar product.
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Well we're splitting shells a bit here, but I'd argue whether or not the sponsors are seeking to direct customers away from competitors, or to create new customers for their market depends on that market. TV is everywhere, so an ad for ITV is obviously about its competitors. Are payday loans at the click of a button, on a self service site with TV ads running everywhere? I don't think so. They are looking for the 'oh I didn't realise it was so easy' people.
 
My original thoughts on the subject,

G4rdToonArmy said:
If it is to be wonga theres not much we can really do about it but like many others I won't be buying a top with wonga on it.
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Now though I have to say with them giving us our stadium name back I would not have a problem with it on the shirt (they won me over). They can advertise their brand any way possible and a sticker on the shirt for the next 4 years (possibly more) should not encourage more people to go and take a loan out with them. How many people on this board are going to take a loan out with Wonga now that they sponsor us??? If you answer is that you would you should go get your head examined.
 
All I'm saying is I had the same view at the time but the circumstances have changed. The naming rights, the extra money, an extra £1.5m for the youth facilities. Its a good deal for the club which makes it fine by me. If it had been a rubbish deal I would probably have the same view now as before.
 
bigirimanarama said:
And when would the league/fa/government intervene? If the fans demanded it as a whole.
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I hope you don't really believe that! They'll usually do it when it suits them or when there is something in it for them. They have no interest in what the fans think. I think its a bit of a non issue, as I've already said I can find something morally dubious about every sponsor in the land. Its business and its about who offers the most. Its the cringey cheap cheesey adverts that I don't like being associated with <laugh>.

I do think these companies are predators but I find myself having a lack of sympathy with people who get themselves into the situation where they are living on the never never and using these companies. Its not like they hide what they are, anyone who chooses to use them knows what they are signing up to.
 
G4rdToonArmy said:
All I'm saying is I had the same view at the time but the circumstances have changed. The naming rights, the extra money, an extra £1.5m for the youth facilities. Its a good deal for the club which makes it fine by me. If it had been a rubbish deal I would probably have the same view now as before.
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This.
 
I've long accepted that morality has very little to do with either big business or football in the 21st Century.

All I'm bothered about is that when the lads go out to face 5under1and they all give 4,212% <doh>
 
So glad we are not going to be playing in the "wonga" simply from the point of view of the embarrassment factor.Hearing all the different connotations on the word Wonga before the announcement that the stadium was to be officially renamed SJP, never changed for me in a million years, was excruciating. The worst one was a rendition of the following to the tune of the conga,
The Toon they play at Wonga
The Toon they play at Wonga
La la la la
La la la la
It's St James Park no longer
Because they called it Wonga
Get the gist, it would have been endless.
Personally l think there was never any intention to name the stadium The Wonga anything, this is a PR stunt from start to finish, simple as.
Get everyone up in arms, then offer them some form of appeasement, when in fact you are only giving what was already going to be there is as old as the hills.
 
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