Winter transfer window

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If Rigg and Bellingham can't compete here, they'll never make it in the Prem.

For me it means we can rotate and keep people fresh for what would be a massive run in for us.
I absolutely think that if he comes it simply HAS to be met with an increased willingness to use subs by RLB
We only have four more mid week games - I believe the worst of the hectic Championship schedule is behind us. Are any of the four I mention going to be satisfied with 20 or 30 minute sub appearances once every week?
 
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I think the lack of subs reflects a lack of trust, to be honest. Bringing players like this will make RLB more comfortable that players coming on can positively impact the game. Would be huge going in to the second half of the season, especially as players come back from injury.
He never used subs at Lorient at all either (their fans couldn't stand him for it), suggests it's more to do with his philosophy than anything else - mind he may just have, at no point, trusted his bench options at Lorient either.
 
I'm not worried about the minutes being shared as Rigg is still only 17, Jobe only 19 and I think Brownes injury might be worse than 1st feared. Samed has been injured all season so who knows what he will be like for us. CM is the most important position and we need numbers in there at the minute, and I'd rather we signed a quality one than one that'll just be a back up to the 1st choice 3

Vale is decent on the right wing, I don't like him as a LM as he lacks explosive pace. I was chatting to a scout for Ipswich the other day and I asked him about Vale and he said his best position is RM. He says he is really intelligent coning off his wing and finding pockets of space but he's also good in 1v1 situations. He is different to Roberts but I think that's a good thing, gives us a different option.

He says he will be a quality championship player in the future, he isnt sure if he thinks he can be a PL regular though but says he would be a cracking signing for us with the type of players we have at the club
Fair enough re Vale, thanks for the insight - I thought of him as covering all centre mid positions and the left side, certainly didn't appreciate that the right side was his best position.
 
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Would folk be happy with these 3 signings in Jan

Le Fee - Loan
Vale - perm
Carlos vinicius - Loan/perm

Then sell/Loan the following:
Rusyn - Loan (can't see him going permanently)
Ba - perm
Anderson - released/perm
Johnson - Loan
Jewi - Perm
Where has this link with Vinicius come from like? any actual links or just rumours on here?
Also i.e the Vale post, I thought he was a fullback rather than a midfielder/wide player?
 
I'm not worried about the minutes being shared as Rigg is still only 17, Jobe only 19 and I think Brownes injury might be worse than 1st feared. Samed has been injured all season so who knows what he will be like for us. CM is the most important position and we need numbers in there at the minute, and I'd rather we signed a quality one than one that'll just be a back up to the 1st choice 3

Vale is decent on the right wing, I don't like him as a LM as he lacks explosive pace. I was chatting to a scout for Ipswich the other day and I asked him about Vale and he said his best position is RM. He says he is really intelligent coning off his wing and finding pockets of space but he's also good in 1v1 situations. He is different to Roberts but I think that's a good thing, gives us a different option.

He says he will be a quality championship player in the future, he isnt sure if he thinks he can be a PL regular though but says he would be a cracking signing for us with the type of players we have at the club
This ^^^ for me Rigg is only 17, it's his first full season as a senior pro and he was already starting to have games that would pass him by imo, I don't think he should be pissed off if we sign someone and he ends up not starting. He's only 17. Also this would allow for RLB to rotate more from game to game, there's no reason to start the same players every single game
 
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We only have four more mid week games - I believe the worst of the hectic Championship schedule is behind us. Are any of the four I mention going to be satisfied with 20 or 30 minute sub appearances once every week?

Well in theory it wouldn't be the same player only playing 20 minutes once every week. It would rotate. So every 4 weeks they get a rest. And if there are any injuries or suspensions, none of them do.
 
He never used subs at Lorient at all either (their fans couldn't stand him for it), suggests it's more to do with his philosophy than anything else - mind he may just have, at no point, trusted his bench options at Lorient either.
Agree it must be his philosophy. I think he's looking for these players to come together as the match progresses to learn how to solve problems presented by the opposition,and to try to capitalise on the areas of the game in which we're causing them problems.
He only seems to want to bring subs on when he detects possible costly fatigue.
 
He never used subs at Lorient at all either (their fans couldn't stand him for it), suggests it's more to do with his philosophy than anything else - mind he may just have, at no point, trusted his bench options at Lorient either.

Yeah I think its more to do with his philosophy of not wanting to disrupt a team performance rather than JUST trust.

My hope is that the trust allows him to rotate the starting 11 more, even if the changes within the match don't increase by much
 
Well in theory it wouldn't be the same player only playing 20 minutes once every week. It would rotate. So every 4 weeks they get a rest. And if there are any injuries or suspensions, none of them do.
On this one I’m just playing devil’s advocate to an extent, but does that sort of rotation allow for the relationships on the pitch to remain established and flourish? RLB is big on that and his triangles.

As it is, I think the players always looks so well drilled that it isn’t all that impactful when a deputy plays.
 
On this one I’m just playing devil’s advocate to an extent, but does that sort of rotation allow for the relationships on the pitch to remain established and flourish? RLB is big on that and his triangles.

As it is, I think the players always looks so well drilled that it isn’t all that impactful when a deputy plays.

Its a good point. Hopefully ELF is already well conversed with RLB's triangles and can simply slot in. Good intelligent players should be able to adapt into it.
 
Its a good point. Hopefully ELF is already well conversed with RLB's triangles and can simply slot in. Good intelligent players should be able to adapt into it.
This is another big reason why i'm excited so much. He already knows exactly what RLB wants and was his main man in midfield. For all he's very very talented and better than this league, there is no getting used to the manager period that new signings usually need
 
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I just don't buy this stuff. I get that reports are snowballing and they have some credibility but I just don't understand how any championship club get this deal done.

It would be a ridiculous coup given the player's profile and value.
I can completely see why personally, it’s a loan until he end of the season and will almost certainly only be made permanent if we’re promoted. On top of that our current manager basically made him the player he is.
 
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Are we all relaxed about Le Fee now?

The player was signed for €23m (£19m) just 6 months ago, Roma will want most of that back if any deal involving a transfer is to be struck. I know our guys are very good at getting sensible deals that the club can manage, so I'd assume this could be dragged out a little longer than usual. Happy to be completely wrong though.
 
I can completely see why personally, it’s a loan until he end of the season and will almost certainly only be made permanent if we’re promoted. On top of that our current manager basically made him the player he is.
It's almost a perfect no risk chance for him to get to the PL, makes more sense to try rather than not to. If we go up, the buy option is automatic and he is now a PL player, if we don't he goes back to Roma
 
We only have four more mid week games - I believe the worst of the hectic Championship schedule is behind us. Are any of the four I mention going to be satisfied with 20 or 30 minute sub appearances once every week?

But what within that 20 or 30 mins they are quite extraordinary and in turn deserve to start the next game in place of someone who looked to be struggling for either fitness or form? That 20 or 30 mins then turns into 75, 80,90...... To keep your spot in the first team you need to perform in both training AND the match - that can only be good for the club