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Will Guidolin guide us to safety?

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Taffvalerowdy, Feb 13, 2016.

  1. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    It's not the fact that we lost to Southampton , not a prob .
    It's the manner in which we lost that giving me a cold chill .
    As I set my sights on four wins up to and including April 16th , I've moved from confident to hopeful .
    All the changes going on since the Leicester loss seems to have us befuddled........a bit hindsightical but I'm wishing Guido came in the summer if Curtis kept us up .
    Guido and Paloschi would be a lot more eased in if they were starting from scratch instead of with 16 games left amoungst a relegation battle .Guido must be up to two yoga sessions a day ...lol
     
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  2. DragonPhilljack

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    Not heard

    Not heard about Rodgers coming back, but no doubt it's squeaky bum time, need a do or die attitude from all our players now...... <ok>
     
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  3. toinfinityand beyond

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    I for one fear the worst this season.I honestly think the board did not act quick enough to replace monk and give guidolin a fair chance to asses players and bring his own players and give him enough time .Looking at our fixtures plus the way we have played I just think relegation looks a fair bet. I am concerned about where are goals are coming from,this is why I would try a different system against spurs with Gomis and paloschi up top
     
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  4. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    All roads point to Monk being shown the door after Norwich , especially considering the 14 days ( that someone else could have had ) to retool the team's effort . Instead of a retooling , Monk had us look worse than ever for 3 more games
    Then Huw waits till midweek to sack Monk after Leicester and we're off to Man City a few days later with everything heaped on Curtis . While Huw was dropping the ball all over the place , Curtis was picking it up and running miracles imo .
    Nothing against Guido and his ability but Curtis should have been left alone to finish the season , the players just seem confused now like they were at the end with Monk , but weren't with Curtis and Jones .
    Hopefully Guido and the team can stumble us through to 17th or higher , I just don't like our chances as much as when the team were playing under Curtis .
     
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  5. toinfinityand beyond

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    Its the million dollar question Roof because at times I thought Curts was a bit out of his depth with some dubious subs but the same could be said for guidolin ala West Brom.Still think theres going to be a lot of twists before the season ends but my main concern is goals.This is why with nothing to lose why don't we try a different system against spurs.Personally I would start with two up top and also Barrow should start he has the ability with no fear of taking on defenders
     
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    Barrow must start against Spurs. We need to set up for some kind of fast counter attack at the very least, even if it's just a small forward unit bombing on while everyone else plays it safe. Just parking the bus and hoping is guaranteed suicide.
     
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  7. toinfinityand beyond

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    Couldn't agree more geezer.My theory is exactly that PARK THE BUS but have an outlet.Noit only are you going to keep spurs wing backs on their toes but on the counter we have an injection of pace
     
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  8. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    This strategy seems to be working very well for Leicester , and when teams are pressing Leicester a bit and they have 1 dangerous counter attack against they're opponents , they're opponents lose the plot on they're own plan and get worn down
     
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  9. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    MR G don't have the skill or the knowledge of premiership football and was brought in as a panic appointment as curt for obvious reasons did not want the job and was not good enough anyway. There is only one way we will stay up and that is in the hands of 3 or 4 clubs that i hope will be worst than us, If a couple of teams go on a good run then we with our run in will go down.
     
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  10. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to disagree regarding Curtis who knows the squad far better than anyone including Guideline so his substitutions were poor, we needed to bring someone in and it should have been before Curtis was appointed , he did a sterling job but for the short term only .We now have a decent break where the new man has a time to bring in and get the team playing his way , if after this break we don't see an improvement in tactics then I'll revise my opinion .We haven't been battered by anyone since Monk left so I'm still hopeful that we can survive .
     
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  11. seabreeze

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    In your opinion the subs were poor , everyone has opinions but only the man making those subs knows his reasoning .....everyone else is just speculating . Given the situation Curtis was thrown into and the improvement shown I feel we would have been fine staying up under him .. But like everyone else , it's just another speculative opinion .
     
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    Agree and now that we are more sold defensively (excluding set pieces), hopefully we'll see a similar improvement in our attacking game.
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

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    I would like to know where this so called improvement was under Curtis or Guildolin for that matter is, look at the table without those rose tinted glasses on and have a realistic look where we are, We are playing like a lower league side with little or no direction and that needs to stop and stop now....Most of The players don't look as if they are that bothered if we go down or not with only players like Ash, Leon,Rangel Taylor, Ki and Routs trying their best. You cant win anything in a team sport if only half of the team are giving 100%...It was only last season when going into games like Arsenal,Spurs, Liverpool Etc we were confident of getting a result and even if we never won we put in a display of good football. This season is a disaster and it all stems from right at the top to the bottom and all the confidence we had in abundance has disappeared.
     
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  14. seabreeze

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    Monk won one game in his last eleven Premier League starts dai , and that win was against 20th place Villa where we scored 4 minutes from time to luckily win .
    It doesn't take much to improve on that, Curtis and Guido won three games from they're eleven games in charge . I hate to state the obvious dai .........but that's 3 times better in the same amount of games .
    I can hardly wait to hear your explanation why I'm wrong and why we're playing worse under Curtis and Guido and Monk should have been given more time .
     
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    take a really good look at the table ffs what part dont you understand...
     
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  16. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Every time you print something , I understand it's pretty well the opposite .
    For Monk's last 11 games he averaged .55 points a game
    For Curtis and Guido's 11 games since we averaged 1.2 points a game , over twice as much .
    Only you could argue that twice as many points in the same period isn't improvement dai.
     
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    Only a fool would blame monk after the way he saved the club and gave us our best ever season. Where we are today proves he was not to blame and the fault lays firmly at the bad decisions and underhanded ways from the boardroom. Monk is guilty of nothing more that arguing with Jenkins over it and Jenkins with no Backbone going against his superiors that put the end of any relationship with monk....I bet you any money Jenkins is sorry now as we are a few games away from relegation that he never listened to monk when he said the team he has got with the players the board bought are not the correct players for the club to move forward... Never a truer word spoken by monk as the table looks and the way the season has gone......There is no comparison to last season whatsoever.....Try blaming the right ones for once for the clubs demise.....
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    So explain why everything has come true what monk said and we are now worst off and favourites to go down. <doh> and why do everyone of his peers agree that we were mad to sack one of the best young managers to emerge in recent times and have made so many bad decisions like allowing the board to bring in players not suited, getting rid of dyer, selling an English international player to a rival. flying the world to get a manager that said not a chance, getting turned down by every decent manager looking for work, finally installing a manager nobody had heard of after telling the world that Curtis was to remain in charge until the end of the season and we are no better off now than when monk was here and instead worst off as there is not many games left.......Wake up smell the coffee and admit monk was right and the board and Jenkins were wrong and now we will pay for it.......
     
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  20. Taffvalerowdy

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    Dai - without wishing or intending to defend the Board, if Monk disagreed with signing Ayew, why pick him? He could have picked most, if not all of last season's team.

    Monk didn't pick Tabanou or Eder.......

    Did the players play for Monk? If not, why not?
     
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