Who's the weak link in our squad?

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who's the weak link in the squad

  • Krul

  • Simpson

  • S. Taylor

  • Coloccini

  • R. Taylor

  • Obertan

  • Cabaye

  • Tiote

  • Jonas

  • Best

  • Ba


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Sorry m8 but they did. I had about 6 of em talkin cr*p b4 the suggestion of CM ever came up. Thats why I went mental. I didn't care about the CM thing. Was a one off comment plp decided to jump all over.

....que groundhog day comments...

I was there, they want him to play but they dont want him to play pointless 20 minute cameos when we're losing.
 
Raylor. Take away the goals and he's no better than Simpson, and then consider than Raylor has Jonas in front of him and Simpson's had ****e cover for 2 and a half years in front of him.

Simpson had Barton in front of him who was excellent defensively???
 
i went for simpson, was a toss up between the full backs though.

Maybe if the poll was what is our weakest position i would have gone left back. But taylor offers something different (set pieces) and isnt a natural full back so hard to see he is the weak link.
 
Sorry m8 but they did. I had about 6 of em talkin cr*p b4 the suggestion of CM ever came up. Thats why I went mental. I didn't care about the CM thing. Was a one off comment plp decided to jump all over.

....que groundhog day comments...

Rob Elliot needs game time, potential partner for Ben Arfa?
 
Simpson had Barton in front of him who was excellent defensively???

Wouldnt say he was "excellent" to the level of Jonas. He tracked back a fair bit but because he was a CM cut inside a lot and left a large gap on the right allowing players to double up on Simpson.
 
Wouldnt say he was "excellent" to the level of Jonas. He tracked back a fair bit but because he was a CM cut inside a lot and left a large gap on the right allowing players to double up on Simpson.

Must admit I thought Barton was excellent defensively, worked his socks off for the team. Always got back in, and though like you say he'd drift inside now and again when we had the ball, I thought he was excellent at grafting back in to give Simpson cover. Certainly working his socks off for QPR and doing a good job for them defensively. Couldn't compare him with Jonas, but then again I think Jonas is possibly the best winger in the world at defending such is his team ethic.
 
I have to say though, I think it very doubtful that any of these can match Raylors deadballs. Certainly on the evidence I have seen in France and so far with us. Indeed I don't think Ben Arfa is particularly great with the dead ball from what I've seen. Certainly Cabaye possesses dead ball ability, but not in Raylors class. Marveaux I've seen very little of and to be honest he isn't even worth considering as he has it all to prove now.

I don't get this thing with Jonas helping out Raylor. I hope he does the same regardless of the full back, and its as much to do with our tactics and set up, as opposed to protecting Raylor. Certainly it was apparent early doors when he was adjusting to a new position, but less so as the games have gone on. Jonas is a defensive winger for me anyway. The team should always come before the individual, and Jonas playing defensively is one of the main reasons for our solid start to the season.

I was only putting Ben Arfa into the picture for left footers really. Rather just have Raylor taking everything. As for Cabaye, i rate him defintely as much as Raylor for freekicks. He took them for Lille (as Marveaux did a lot for Rennes), but Cabaye has great technique. Its not as if everyone Raylor hits is dangerous, he still hits the wall or skies them plenty of times. Im not saying Raylor is poor at freekicks of course, im just saying that we easily have replacements if thats the only thing keeping him in the starting eleven.


As for the whole Jonas thing, since Raylor has played at LB he's been a lot more defensive. You cant say that’s just how he plays as he got forward a lot more last season and times before that. I think it was somethig like 70% of our play come down the left hand side. In my eyes he can attack and defend, but without having a fullback that links up with him nicely in attack and someone he can rely on for defensive duties, he just seems to stay back.

You also cant just say it’s the way we play because Obertan doesn’t play the same way at all, yet Simpson is no better than Raylor. Ideally both fullbacks would be replaced eventually, but it'll take time to introduce them properly. Theyre not long term solutions be any means though. It just depends if their egos are too big to be squad members.
 
Must admit I thought Barton was excellent defensively, worked his socks off for the team. Always got back in, and though like you say he'd drift inside now and again when we had the ball, I thought he was excellent at grafting back in to give Simpson cover. Certainly working his socks off for QPR and doing a good job for them defensively. Couldn't compare him with Jonas, but then again I think Jonas is possibly the best winger in the world at defending such is his team ethic.

I would never question his work ethic, he just had a natural tendency to cut inside to his usual position, which often left a gap on the right. Cant blame him though as he'd never played out wide and we should have had a more natural RW playing there.
 
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