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Where's Trixter when you need him?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by lamby, May 15, 2016.

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  1. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Much as I think St Mary's is way undersized [always have from day one, so don't jump], a large stadium is more of a symbol than a necessity these days. The revenue from gate receipts is the added bit on the bottom after TV money, merchandising, advertising, sponsors, etc, have weighed in heavily. What WHU will manage to do is to get everyone else to pay for their symbol and still keep the identity to themselves, so that merchandise, advertising and sponsorship are boosted and the extra pays the pathetic amount of annual rent. In that they have a substantial leg-up over other teams.

    As far as I know, that £2.5M p.a. they pay for the next 99 years doesn't even rise with inflation, so in 20, 30, 50 years time it might be insignificant. It's tiny enough now. makes you wonder what the annual outgoings are on an owned stadium of a similar size. If TV ever falls out of love with football, WHU will be well positioned. But as a major revenue earner in terms of gate receipts, at the moment, it is near the bottom.
     
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  2. ImpSaint

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    I'm not deriding them selling cheap tickets. I am deriding the spin they put on it trying to make out themselves out to be thinking about the fans when it was purely that they worked out they weren;t going to be able to sell them at full price.
     
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  3. TwistAndShout

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    You are wrong on this one.

    There are less than 5,000 band 5 (£289) season tickets. Some of our season tickets are around £1000 and my middle of the road one will cost me £800. There is a long waiting list and we had to increase capacity from 54k to 60k just to cope.

    Sure once the novelty wears off after a season or two then demand will drop a little but there is no reason why we won't fill it long term as well as short.

    Now stop spreading your poorly researched claptrap. <ok>
     
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  4. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    You have to admit though though Wet sham have been lucky in acquiring the new stadia. It Will help you in the short term but will depend on how deep your owner's pockets become. It is true we only beat you by a point......... but hey that point was highly valuable.
    A word to the wise though........a temporary ban was made in regards to trixter which was served and although the name was changed, if ever a further ban should be needed the first one will be taken into account. The forum rules actually state that if posters continually change names to avoid bans it will change to a total not606 ban so not just from the saints board or whoever. Multiple Forum names also are frowned upon too..so be warned. Enjoy the banter and exchanges twistAndshout all are welcome until they step out of line. Just enjoy mate............
     
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  5. garysfc

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    Perfectly said.
     
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  6. TwistAndShout

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    You would make a blinding traffic warden fella.
     
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  7. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Hi Trixter, serious question, do you think that Bilic ****ed up by playing Antonio at RB for the last third of the season? He was tearing up teams playing further forward and scoring for fun,. Is he one of your POTY?
     
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  8. TwistAndShout

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    It's been difficult for us at RB ever since Jenkinson got injured mate. Byram is one for the future, Tomkins isn't really a RB and Joey O'Brien is Joey O'Brien.

    Bilic seemed to see something in Antonio at RB that none of us fans could. However we conceded a lot of goals down our right side when he played there and we obviously lost his goal threat. It's probably the only thing Bilic got wrong this season. Frustrating because with a proper RB and Antonio further forward top 4 was there for the taking.

    RB will be a key area we look to strengthen this summer.
     
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  9. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Just as long as you take heed of what he says there will be no problem. OK.?
     
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    Yeah, you and us both, that's been our achilles heel position all season, a top quality RB and we will have a much better balance.
    I have looked out for Antonio's career since he left us because I always thought that he has a lot of pace and talent but was a bit of a rough diamond when he was here. I think that Bilic has denied him a possible place at the Euros and if you gave me the choice between Antonio and Stirling I would choose Antonio all day long personally.
     
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  11. TwistAndShout

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    Not really too fussed if you ban me mate. I'll say what I want. I only came on your board because there was a thread specifically about me.

    Probably worth noting though, that in calling us 'wet sham' (cringe), he lost his right to a respectful answer from me. <ok>
     
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  12. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Just take note.
     
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  13. TwistAndShout

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    Jasper & Saints Alive have got it right. Have a chat with me with no daft name calling like 'wet spam' etc or crying because I'm a 'wum' then I will have a chat back and be respectful.

    If you wanna cry to a mod and ask for me to be banned because I'm having a little laugh and a joke then that's your problem.
     
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  14. ImpSaint

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    Wet Spam is a polite name for a tinpot club that has never won anything yet thinks 3 medals won 50 years ago by players in the national team makes them a big club.

    As for 1 point better. Yes indeed, with a lower wage bill as well. Last season Liverpool and Man U managed a couple of points more than us yet spent way more than us.

    We are competing above our level as they say year on year. West Ham's owners complain about being hamstrung by FFP yet is them that have made the decisions that leave them with no room for manoeuvre.

    I used to quite like West Ham but since we were in the same division just reading West Ham fan's delusions of being some big club and how much bigger than us they are and the derogatory remarks made towards other teams it changed everything.

    Even now they call Southampton a tiny club. We are a tiny club if you are United or Arsenal. We are a smaller club if you are Tottenham or Chelsea. But there isn't much difference if you are West Ham. We are smaller but the difference is not much. Your fans might want to take a reality check and realise that they are not Tottenham or Arsenal or Chelsea. They are West Ham - a club that still harps on about things that happened half a century ago.

    Big difference between us. Your fans wear old cotton replica shirts with a number 6 on the back and even then half of them are red with 3 lions on the front. Our fans wear this season's shirt!!! That in itself is pretty telling as to the difference between our teams.

    Look forward to you lot going down next season ;)
     
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  15. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    I've never once cried to a mod, but I have called you a WUM which on several occasions you had been. The message is clear, just don't wind up for the sake of it. You definitely did that before, but it appears you want a sensible conversation this time which is good.
     
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  16. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Likening me to a traffic warden in my book is not an insult....someone has got to do the job...assuming of course you meant it as an insult. Incidentally a lot of traffic wardens are very nice people in fact from my experience most are.
    Try and remember trixter this is a saints Forum and quite often we have different nick names for clubs. Its just a play on your title don't take it so much to heart as you have in the past accused some of our members.
    As I said before enjoy the banter and chat as you are very welcome. What on earth has happened to your board though it is quiet as a mouse? you must be a lonely fella on there.................
     
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  17. Onionman

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    Oh, the irony.
     
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  18. woolstonian

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    Stadia? How many have they been 'given' now?
     
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  19. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Still just the one as far as I know.....<laugh>
     
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  20. fran-MLs little camera

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    West Ham took what they were offered after negotiations....if anyone is in the wrong, it's the government people who negotiated the deal. WHU may have got a great deal, but that's not a crime. Was there another offer on the table? If there was, I haven't heard about it.
     
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