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I do find the Spurs manager commentary funny. Eddie Howe and Graham Potter won't be considered because of their lack of experience at a top club. Regardless of whether I think they are both top managers, I am interested to know how you get experience at a top club before you manage a top club?
I think if they managed to break the top 10 with their respective clubs or moved to a smaller league where they could get some European experience. Or are shown to be innovative.
I think Howe moving to Celtic would be a good stepping stone to moving to a bigger club.
If you take Rodgers as an example. He had a promotion under his belt and finished 11th in the Premier league with Swansea whilst pushing the tiki Taka model, which was a hot trend at the time.
Howe and Potter haven't been innovative, haven't had their clubs higher than they should have been. They're essentially heading the same way as a Big Sam, Steve Bruce. Etc
Pretty sure Potter has managed a club in Europe. Indeed isn't that how he got on the radar of British clubs?
He has experience in the lower echelons of the Europa League with a Swedish team, I think teams like Arsenal or Spurs are looking for a bit better than that. It's good enough to take over a club like Wolves, Villa, Palace, which is a significant upgrade over Brighton.
I'm not discrediting him, I'm just saying he's 45. At the same age, Rodgers had already managed Liverpool and Celtic. Rafa had already won the Europa League, The Champions League and had 2 La Liga Titles.
So for instance if you’d taken a team from League 2 to the PL and managed a 9th place finish or something? Playing an attractive brand of modern football widely applauded in the game?
Pretty much utter bollocks be honest
The bottom line is it’s just not popular with top sides to appoint English managers who have worked tirelessly to make their way up the pyramid. So they never get that experience to actually take the next step and develop further. It’s a good idea to go to Celtic or Rangers to get some cheap titles? Apart from this attitude stinking of ****e and being disrespectful to two massive clubs, it shouldn’t be necessary at all. I can think of quite a few negative boring ****s who’ve been awarded top jobs on the basis of ancient history. Bringing nothing innovative to football at all.
It’s such a European Super League attitude and it’s **** for the game. It sums their arrogance to keep it a closed shop in every which way they can. I don’t think it’s anti English attitude, I think a stigma got attached to managers here when we opened up at the advent of the PL.
**** that boring ****, we should be aiming for something much better. The Entertainers the other day told us what we need to do. The clubs been asleep for ages, we don’t need him putting the fans to sleep again.
He left us in top 8 form. Subliminal defensive record. Highest scoring NUFC team for years.
He has stated in various interviews the trends in coaching, has admitted that high octane, pressurised football is the way forwards and what fans want to see. Has a big range of scouting personnel around the world that he personally hires in order to follow players and coaching methods.
This response that he is a dinosaur or out of touch is ridiculous.
Oh come on. Eddie Howe was linked with every top English side at one point and yet none of them hired him. Why is that? You can blame it on his name not being foreign ala the Sam Alardici jokes that used to do the rounds, or you could blame it on better options being available or simply put he reached his potential.
Eddie Howe did a great job getting Bournemouth as high as he did, but he was unable to take them to the next level. By the end, even his own hardcore fans had enough of him. His brand of football wasn't exciting, he did just enough every season until clubs worked him out and he couldn't do just enough anymore.
His transfers were an absolute disaster once he was able to spend real money, he bought some absolute dross for considerably more money than they were worth, that's something which would put off big clubs, its alright for smaller clubs if you have a good record for cheap buys. He kept hold of his league 1 players for far too long and should have got rid. He was just happy plodding along.
16th, 9th, 12th, 14th, 18th. Its hardly a phenomenal record. That's the kind of record people would be ripping Steve Bruce to shreds for.
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“I’m watching the Serie A because it’s a good league for me but there, in France, in Germany, in Portugal, I don’t see too many options… to have a project where you can develop players and make the team more competitive
