Off Topic Where is the north ?

When I was a teenager and coming back from down South on a coach usually having seen the lads get beat, when we passed Scotch Corner I thought we were nearly home.
Didn't realise there was still a fair lump of northern England to pass before I got home.

 

I remember the first time I drove out of London ( quite a number of years ago!) and saw the road sign "Hatfield and the North".
Didn't really know where Hatfield was, didn't bother finding out (must have driven past a few times and never noticed). Then years later, ended up working not too far from there; of course it's not far up the A1, so I assume that's where London folks think the North starts

 

Derby doesn't have the hotels, transport, restaurants or pubs to cope with that many people tbh ...

... Berwick play is Scotland for financial reasons and because Exeter and Plymouth would refuse to play there

 

This is the correct answer

 

Maybe, but they are a UK government, not an England government. The UK covers 11⁰ of Latitude and that puts Sunderland firmly in the midlands

 

Shetland 60⁰ to 60⁰55' IS halfway up to Faroe yet it is still part of the UK

 

In Britain, north has always been an economic rather than a geographic area and so the real answer is that the north starts where the money starts to get scarcer!

Thus it has always been more of a curved than a linear partition, with the 'geographical' start of the north actually moving furthur out as the trains let people live outside of London and commute in.

Anyway, I live in North Wales so just look on in bemusement as you anglo saxons argue about it!

 

I read in a book a few years ago ( think it's on my kindle so will try to find what I read) that a Tory politician argued that during the industrial revolution , the wealth of the country was concentrated in the north and so it's only right that it's now ' Londons turn to have the money'

 

For anyone south of the Thames, the other side of the river is north.
Anyone unsure, Sadiq Khan has a sign at the start of the M1 saying the The North

 

Coventry played in Division 3 South for a While

 

Berwick are English and play in Scotland ...

... doesn't make them Scottish.

 

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my quote has been hacked.

 

by that logic, parts of Cornwall would also be in the north… which ain’t right.

 

Exactly.

As I said, you can't simply draw lines on a map, it's just a state of mind.

When Edinburgh is further west than Manchester, while being on the east coast, it somewhat distorts things.

Besides which, none of it matters does it ...

... you are what you believe you are and no one can change that.

 

... but unfortunately we are also what the politicians believe we are, and thats usually to our detriment

 

You are talking logic, mate, which is a foreign language for governments.

 

Is Chepstow in England or Wales, mate?

 

I didn’t expect so many replies to this thread, strangely though while driving this morning I had the radio on ( radio 1 ) I think and what were they discussing Where is the north .