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Where does the problem lie?

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by rangercol, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Bridge has been a roaring success at Reading?...

    Says it all...
     
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  2. Grifter

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    He's never said he'll leave if we don't go up, so we might as well put that one to bed.
    Have you got a link to the article with him threatening to resign if we didn't sign bridge? I remember one lone preseason interview where he was asked whether he wanted to stay at QPR, and he said something along the lines of "well yes sure... Assuming I can get the things I'm looking for". That was after he'd felt we took too long over he Hooper+Bridge signings. That's the only time I've heard him vaguely hint his position wasn't assured.
     
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  3. QPR Oslo

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    Of course. If his replacement gets us back to the PL, £3 Million will be peanuts.
     
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  4. QPR Oslo

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    In reply to the OP I reckon Arry's tactics, and his every changing formations and players is the big problem, that and the injuries to Austin, Phillips and Ale.
     
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  5. Stroller

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    Correct.
     
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  6. Azmi

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    £3,000,000 would be cheap if we were to go up. HR hasn't changed, what you see is what you get and we knew that from the start. I blame Fernandes, bullshit merchant with a proven record in F1 where incidentally he threatens to pull the plug at the end of the season if there are no results after years of under financing.

    When he achieves what that moron Flabio did get back to me. Where's Bhattia? Where are the Mittals? They know bad news are are staying well clear.

    For the life of me I cannot understand why people here lap up TF's bullshit, TF has admitted his business plan is based on that of Michael O'Leary, that should be a warning to anyone.

    There's nothing wrong with our squad and HR and his team have a proven record. Beard? Where the **** is he and what the **** has he done for us? :headbang:
     
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  7. Ranger4ever

    Ranger4ever Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely 100%
     
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  8. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear, so when we lose at home to Leeds next Saturday you'll all be locked in the stadium for 12 hours and have to phone the police to let you out!...<laugh>
     
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  9. Grifter

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    Amit Bhatia &#8207;@Amit_Bhatia99 · 3h
    Tragic result for us. Absolutely gutted.


    Amit Bhatia &#8207;@Amit_Bhatia99 · 2h
    A draw seemed a bad result but to lose in soul destroying. We still have 15 games to go and have to keep the faith that we'll recover soon.


    Amit Bhatia &#8207;@Amit_Bhatia99 · 2h
    @_manishbhasin really bad result for us. And with all the teams around us winning it's made even worse.But we'll recover. #uhearditherefirst
     
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  10. BlindFaith

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    Have been saying for some time that the balance isn't right, who's to blame we can't be sure as not party to the discussion with HR, TF & Beard. Clearly having nine loans when only able to five in the squad is a stupid position to be in. I'm pretty sure HR was after bigger signings than what we ended with in the January window. Ultimately all three will have to shoulder some of the blame if we don't get promotion which is now pretty likely.
     
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  11. Rollercoaster Ranger

    Rollercoaster Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Yes and no.

    You are right of course it is never that simple, but surely this is what Redknapp's job is all about. It doesn't really matter who we wanted to come, the players that did were his choices. Within weeks of the season starting we were going into matches with one striker on the field and none on the bench. I'm sure he was fully aware of his budgets at the beginning of the summer, but he got the make up of the squad wrong. Again that is probably an over simplification as arrivals must have been dependent on departures, but that is his job. If it was easy I could do it.

    I totally agree with your sentiments about TF, he desperately needs a good adviser.
     
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  12. SussexR

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    Spot on in a Nutshell
     
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  13. Flyer

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    Would you bet £3m on us going up this season if we sacked him now?
     
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  14. Uber_Hoop

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    Fernandes must accept culpability for his managerial appointment. Redknapp must accept culpability for his team selection and tactics. The players must accept culpability for their poor showing.

    Too many loan players that are either green or not-so-evergreen. Too many injuries to the players that have or may have contributed most. Same old sicknote players. Lack of a talismanic figure.
     
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  15. QPR Oslo

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    TF may if he thinks he has a replacement that can get us up. I think going back to Colin for the rest of the season would be a good bet, but there maybe others. It is looking less and less likely that Arry can do it. Direct promotion is starting to look a stretch for any Manager, so he shouldn't wait too much longer if he is going to make the change.
     
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  16. Ranger4ever

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    I hear Flyer might be up for it.:biggrin:
     
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  17. sb_73

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    Outstanding. So there's nothing wrong with Redknapp (who chose his coaching team, including WALLY DOWNES) or the squad - chosen by Redknapp over 3 transfer windows, obviously within some rules set by the club owners (including Mittal).

    But a series of dire performances, actually stretching back to Redknapp's appointment and before, are according to you, Fernandes' and Beard's fault. I'll give you they haven't chipped in with many goals between them, but to blame the team's performances on them is just your long held prejudice against them. I'm pretty prejudiced against Redknapp, and sadly he is backing up my bias on a daily basis, but I don't blame him for some of the stupid contracts players were offered.

    Overall TF has given this club a direction and concrete and exciting plans for the future. The failure has been on the pitch, and he can be blamed for trusting 'football people' on this - Warnock and his panic buys with bribery contracts started the rot, though he is probably least culpable, his problem was lack of talent to manage at the top level (Oslo, I know you'll come back on this but when he was sacked we were sinking like a stone, and had put in a disastrous performance against MK Dons and the dressing room had turned against him. Ask Barton). Hughes did actually keep us up and recruited players (again on stupid contracts) that I at least was genuinely excited about, but left us with a bizarre squad which he could not manage. Redknapp was given his Christmas wishes - Samba and Remy (who he had failed to recruit for Spurs) were personally delivered by TF, plus Townsend and Jenas. About this time last year the team started to give up. Then he gets to build a short term squad, plus a couple of proper signings in Philips and Austin, to get us promoted. That can be the only expectation we have for this approach, because this squad won't exist come the end of June, consolidation/regrouping would have been done a very different way. And Redknapp must have put his hand on his heart and said 'I can do this, with these players'. And he may have added, sotto voce 'but it won't be pretty'.

    I didn't want Redknapp, because of previously held prejudice against him, but I could understand the appointment, likewise with Hughes. Those calling for better 'football advice' to TF are basically saying 'don't trust your manager'. I don't think TF does trust Redknapp any more and who can blame him. He must be as fed up with this as we are.

    Still 45 points to play for, and the best paid management team and players in this division have to deliver them.
     
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  18. Flyer

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    £100k a year would do it, I can tell you we wouldn't have any shirkers on the pitch and we wouldn't be spunking all our money on 30something prem rejects!
     
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  19. Totallyqpr

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    50K would do for me and I would be player manager, I am 47, but far more mobil than many of our players.
     
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  20. Flyer

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    40k and I'd also look after the players wives during the game :emoticon-0152-heart
     
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