When i was a boy

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cyprussydsafc said:
I think it says a lot about our main concerns that we have some homophobia, drugs sex and rock and roll in here but its always the racist topic that grabs us, why is that?

Is it because its in the news, its visable and all around us, we all have it, it frightens us, it concerns us or we just dont understand it.

It must be a strange world being a racist football fan, like the man who has just been done for his twitter comments about the Newcastle team. To be openly racist about Ba, Cissie and the rest then go to the SoL on Saturday to hail his hero Sess.

At times life was so much easier in those long gone days of ignorance.
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I think that racism grabs the most attention simply because it is the most visible...My conclusion is that nearly all bigitory stems from the fear of difference...
 
Argus said:
In 1960, when I worked in J L Thompsons shipyard, we had one black lad - an apprentice called Joe who worked in the plating shop I think - and he was the only non-white out of god knows how many thousands working there at the time.

However I never recall any visible antaganismm towards him.

Whether that was because I was so young and didn't notice it, I really don't know.

I remember he was an outstanding footballer who played for JL's in the Wearside Apprentices league and perhaps that was his vehicle for deflecting any potential intolerance from his work colleagues?

In those days, competition between the various football teams in shipyards and associated industries was intense, particularly at apprentice level and the regulars enjoyed enviable status in the workplace.

I know because I was never good enough !!
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Great story <applause>
 
I think its unfair to judge the generations of the 50's or 60's for their apparent ignorance. All very well in these times of media and communication for us to nod our heads and tut tut.
They were probably looking back and being all self righteous about the Germans or the Black & Tans and so it went on back over each generation.
How do you not know that something you are doing now and taking for granted will not seem deeply offensive to the next generation. Boxing as a sport, smoking in pubs.... how could you Grandad !
 
atom heart mother said:
I think its unfair to judge the generations of the 50's or 60's for their apparent ignorance. All very well in these times of media and communication for us to nod our heads and tut tut.
They were probably looking back and being all self righteous about the Germans or the Black & Tans and so it went on back over each generation.
How do you not know that something you are doing now and taking for granted will not seem deeply offensive to the next generation. Boxing as a sport, smoking in pubs.... how could you Grandad !
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this is only a teenagers disease
 
atom heart mother said:
I think its unfair to judge the generations of the 50's or 60's for their apparent ignorance. All very well in these times of media and communication for us to nod our heads and tut tut.
They were probably looking back and being all self righteous about the Germans or the Black & Tans and so it went on back over each generation.
How do you not know that something you are doing now and taking for granted will not seem deeply offensive to the next generation. Boxing as a sport, smoking in pubs.... how could you Grandad !
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TBH I have absolutly no idea where all that came from, none at all, can only assume you have toataly missed the point of the thread, either that or just an angry young man.
 
cyprussydsafc said:
OK. my mistake
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no probs - I like the young man bit though, probably only 10 yrs younger than you !!
I remember buying 5 Park drive, bazooka joe bubblegum, no chinese or indian - the only takeaway was the chippy..out of newspapers ! Holidays in Seahouses or Blackpool - no overseas stuff then!
I think we may have come a long way in some respects but in other ways life was good then. probalby because of a big close family around me - makes a big difference !
 
there was a Chinese in Sunderland by high st swimming baths, and another on Crowtree road before they pulled it all down for the bus station and leisure center.
 
Syd,
Nice article on your past but must say that when I was growing up we never classed ourselves as boy or girl it was always lad or lass. You must have gone to grammar school to talk so posh!!!!! The only time I heard boy was at school when the teacher would shout 'boy, you blithering idiot get out here....just before you would get the cane"
When I was growing up the only black faces we used to see were the men coming out of the pit on the way to the pit baths. We had no experience of people from other countries. If you came from Coxhoe or another one of the local villages you were a foreigner....we weren't as worldly as we are now.
I live in the US now and have many black friends including folks who have moved here from all parts of the globe. One good thing though is that when I talk to someone from say Uzbekistan I always use the common language of football and there is instant communication just goes to prove that there is a common language without bigotry.
 
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