When does discipline become bullying?

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Young kids these days can't seem to cope with the real world, they come from school and collage environments where everyone is a winner, everyone gets a well done no matter what they do and they can get away with absolutely anything because nobody is allowed to upset them.... They then go into the "real" world of employment and adult life and just can't handle proper situations where they are pulled up, questioned and expected to hit certain standards. We see it at our place with grad students etc.

It all starts with them not being mentally prepared for real life and the real world at school
 
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howdentiger said:
Young kids these days can't seem to cope with the real world, they come from school and collage environments where everyone is a winner, everyone gets a well done no matter what they do and they can get away with absolutely anything because nobody is allowed to upset them.... They then go into the "real" world of employment and adult life and just can't handle proper situations where they are pulled up, questioned and expected to hit certain standards. We see it at our place with grad students etc.

It all starts with them not being mentally prepared for real life and the real world at school
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I wonder how they'd have coped under Alex Ferguson.
 
Kraken said:
Fergie didn’t bully 16 year old lads, comparing his conduct to that of notorious bellend Bellamy is ridiculous.

His alleged conduct is disgraceful. His proven actions throughout his career are worse.

The guys a complete and utter **** and I do not doubt what this academy lads parents have said.
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What has he supposedly done?
 
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Kraken said:
Fergie didn’t bully 16 year old lads, comparing his conduct to that of notorious bellend Bellamy is ridiculous.

His alleged conduct is disgraceful. His proven actions throughout his career are worse.

The guys a complete and utter **** and I do not doubt what this academy lads parents have said.
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I have no idea what the specifics of the allegations are. Could you enlighten me?
 
Kraken said:
To cut a long story short he’s bullied and purposely neglected the coaching of English boys because they’re not welsh.

An English lads parents came in to see him and he refused to shake their hands and basically acted like a thug swearing and kicking furniture before storming out of the meeting.

He’s off his rocker.
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He's accused of that. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I'd be surprised if it's as clear cut as that, because the owners may have something to say if he was turning talent away.
 
Kraken said:
To cut a long story short he’s bullied and purposely neglected the coaching of English boys because they’re not welsh.

An English lads parents came in to see him and he refused to shake their hands and basically acted like a thug swearing and kicking furniture before storming out of the meeting.

He’s off his rocker.
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None of the above is proved and has come from one lads dad. How do we know he isn't just taking the hump because his son wasn't good enough and is using bellamys rep to try and get some £££
 
howdentiger said:
None of the above is proved and has come from one lads dad. How do we know he isn't just taking the hump because his son wasn't good enough and is using bellamys rep to try and get some £££
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The lads already got a new life abroad he isn’t bothered about money.
 
Kraken said:
I know Cardiff quite well and know people at the club quite well. He isn’t well liked there by staff or fans.

He isn’t even regarded as a competent coach.
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If true then he wouldn't be a coach there. Simple as that.

Would these claims be made if the lad had been kept at the club and was playing for them?
 
Kraken said:
I know Cardiff quite well and know people at the club quite well. He isn’t well liked there by staff or fans.

He isn’t even regarded as a competent coach.
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To be fair, if he was a competent coach, he wouldn't be involved with lower league youth players.

I'm not trying to defend him, I didn't particularly like him as a player, and know little of the goings on. I was more using him to raise the question on the line between managing and bullying. He's perhaps a poor example to choose.
 
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