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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Febbos, Jun 1, 2011.
Oh snap. Can someone give me a summary?
Some people like it, some people don't.
A fine example of the BBC showing what a wonderful city we come from
Anyone think that the Cash Converters sponsorship is going to help the outside world see Hull in a better light?
Dont think it will make any difference
Maybe its just me but I dont think Ive ever judged a city or town on what sponsor their local team has
Amber Nectar's verdict: No difference.
Back to the toads, I loved the one outside paragon station, the NASA toad.
It had a little Dr Who tardis on it, I wanted to buy that one so bad for my son as it would have been a great thing for my son to keep as a souvenir of his first visit to Hull but when the bidding went over 1000 quid I was out.
I did get a fridge magnet of it for him though which he really likes which was obviously a lot cheaper option.
Otley a suburb of Leeds - c'mon.
Otley is a market town 10 miles to the north west of Leeds with a population in 2001 of over 14000.
No wonder Leeds LEA standings are above those of Hull. We can't even get our wealthy suburbs (equivalent to Adel, Alwoodley etc) into Hull and we're now well into a new century.
I was born in Beverley but having been to school & uni in Hull I have an affection for it; I personally love the shipping history, the docks, the river & consider it "my town" even though I now live abroad. I think at one point I knew off by heart every shop & building on Holderness Rd having journeyed down it by bus from Hornsea every day - the 246.
Adel and Alwoodley are part of the same urban entity as Leeds. With Otley, there's a few miles of rural land before you get there. Not sure what the situation is with Beverley and Hull but when I go on Google Streetview halfway between the two, it definitely looks like a big slice of countryside.
Agree - the point is Otley aint a suburb of Leeds - the built area of Leeds hasn't migrated towards Otley in the 30 years since I last lived in Leeds.
Alwoodley and Adel by comparison are equivalent to what the likes of Hessle, Willerby, Anlaby, Kirkella and Cottingham are to Hull.
Generally speaking you can't get as much as a cig paper between Hull and these, shall we say 'settlements'. Difference is with Leeds these suburbs have been within Leeds' old city boundary for decades.
Leeds MBC by comparison to Hull now stretches as far north as wealthy Wetherby.
I think it's a bit of a shame Leeds absorbed a lot of these settlements in the 70s to be honest, it makes a place lose its character when it's shoehorned into a dominant city with its own centre. Even if it makes Hull look bad on the league tables not having absorbed Cottingham etc, it's not the worst news in the world.
There's no need for the Kirkellas and Cottinghams to lose their identify - they are almost wholly dependent on Hull and have expanded from being villages , particularly in Cottingham's case, to burgeoning suburbs brought about by the thinning out and prosperity of the Greater Hull area since WW2.
The former village of Sutton on Hull came within the city's boundaries in 1935. The village centre itself was designated a conservation area a while ago by the City Council. It has more of a village feel about it still today than the likes of Anlaby and Willerby do. Being given Parish Council status would help these former village retain their own identity in the 21st Century.
I think this should shed some light on the matter, source Wikipeadia.
The City of Leeds is a local government district of West Yorkshire, England, governed by Leeds City Council, with the status of a city and metropolitan borough. The district includes Leeds and other smaller towns such as Guiseley, Morley, Rothwell, Otley, Pudsey and Wetherby. It has a population of 770,800 (2008 est.) and is the second largest local government district in England by population; and the second largest metropolitan district by area.
Otley is a market town and civil parish in the metropolitan borough of the City of Leeds, West Yorkshire, England, by the River Wharfe. Historically a part of the West Riding of Yorkshire, the town has a total resident population of 14,124. The town hosts Wharfedale General Hospital which serves the surrounding area.
Well put Sutton.
I feel there should be a K-u-H MBC which would encompass Hessle, Willerby, Anlaby, Kirkella (and the other 'ellas'), Cottingham and, even Bilton. That way, they could all retain their individual status, but at the same time reflect reality.
I am well aware of the district boundaries of Leeds Metropolitan District Council area - Leeds MBC together with Wakefield, Kirklees, Calderdale & Bradford formed the original five MBCs in 1974 as part of West Yorkshire Metropolitan CC. The latter was abolished as an local authority in the early 80s and their powers handed to the remaining 5 MBCs.
Leeds as a City used to have a population of circa 530k when Hulls used to be circa 300k.
West Yorkshire got metropolitan status in 1974 with the reorganisation in England & Wales of local authorities.
Hull, along with the likes of other large cities such as Bristol & Nottingham did/do not form part of a conurbation and lost their main functions to the likes of newly formed Avon & Humberside. These were finally abolished in 1996 and Hull became a unitary authority albeit with no extension to its city boundaries following the Tories Government Review which hand tied the then Commissioners in their remit.
So here we are well into a new century with a boundary that has not essentially changed since WW2. In the meantime every statistic & league table that is ever produced puts the city down near the bottom and we wonder why.