Agreed. That sort of comment is well out of order and unlikely to be made face-to-face...
I would.
Agreed. That sort of comment is well out of order and unlikely to be made face-to-face...
I would.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you would, you're nothing but an internet hardman.
Stooping so low that you have even put ArtieZiff's comments on your username. Don't impress anybody just make yourself look like a disgusting coward.

I'm not a hardman but I am never afraid to say my mind. I was brought up to be honest.
Holy crap! Shot went down pretty quick on here! It is only football lads. No need to get wound up![]()

Just think they are going below the belt with their comments about Cest and his child mate.
Just think they are going below the belt with their comments about Cest and his child mate.
Erm...... Enrique, Carroll, Barton, Nolan, Given? Please explain?
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Flipping hell, you had one season in there in which you ran away with the league for Christ's sake...Try being down there years on end and struggling at the bottom, and then see if your crowds would be as high!
Now come on mate, the crowds of 12-17k before Keegan never happened, the crowds of 42k at the start of this season until Ashley done whatever he done with the ticket prices, never happened either. Didn't you know?
Back to the what this thread is about, well done Alan Pardew deserved manager of the year and well done Mike Ashley for sticking to his principles cos if the fans had their way they would be no Mike Ashley or even Pardew or european football next season.
Just think they are going below the belt with their comments about Cest and his child mate.
I agree that they were shameful comments. However with Cests WUMming nature, he is susceptible to comments like these from idiots. However he is man enough to take them and not care.
Nobody's gonna wind cest up by telling him he's got a huge dong mate.
This is the same **** that was spurted when we went down. Our crowds didn't drop massively so now we need to spend years down there struggling to prove our loyalty, or compare ourselves to the 20k crowds prior to KK from over 20 years ago.
Straw clutching stuff really.
Yeh, I heard... them Thai brides sure like to spread the word.![]()
Yeh, I heard... them Thai brides sure like to spread the word.![]()
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Flipping hell, you had one season in there in which you ran away with the league for Christ's sake...Try being down there years on end and struggling at the bottom, and then see if your crowds would be as high!
Now come on mate, the crowds of 12-17k before Keegan never happened, the crowds of 42k at the start of this season until Ashley done whatever he done with the ticket prices, never happened either. Didn't you know?
Back to the what this thread is about, well done Alan Pardew deserved manager of the year and well done Mike Ashley for sticking to his principles cos if the fans had their way they would be no Mike Ashley or even Pardew or european football next season.
To be fair, if your lot had suffered the amount of relegation's we have (I've got 7 of them under my belt since 1975) and also had the humiliation of a 3rd division relegation and 2 record low points tallies in the top flight behind you, what would your fan base be like?
Keegan lit the blue touch paper for the mags in the 92 season and generated massive national interest in the club. Attendances prior to that were poor at times or average at best. The fact that we were equally ****e prior to Keegans appointment meant that a lot of 'floating ' voters went totally over to the winning team. We have struggled with that ever since but the fact we can still boast 39,000 plus average crowds today (45,000 averages under Reid) given our last 30 years of abject failure, is quite stunning imo.
How many clubs in the UK or anywhere could still command such averages with the track record we have? Not many Warm Pouch. Add to that the fact you have had 100 European games in the last 20 years to shout about, a couplr of runners up spots and regular top 5 or 6 places and we have had none of those, yet we still only average some 7,000 or 8,000 less fans each home game.
I'd like more fans to go to our games of course I would,but I cant knock or ridicule those that have stuck by us thin and thinner over the past 30 years. If Martin does for us what KK did for your lot, then lets see how many fans we can attract as well.
And you know this because of.........................
I wouldn't knock your support, I think its every bit as loyal as our own. I just think you can only really judge your support at any given point in time rather than looking back over years and years. And I find the suggestion that our current fan-base is fickle as laughable. Our current support has been through plenty with the current owner. Everyone pisses up his back now and tries to say "bet you love him now". Why? He is just running the club in a responsible manner, as any custodian of the club should.
Both clubs have amazing support and I have no interest in multiple relegation's as some weird perverse test of that theory.
I can't find a legit answer haha
You have to look at history though warm pouch, in any industry, conflict, regime etc, to understand why something may or not be happening today. Our fan-base has been severely tested over 30 years and still come out the other end in huge numbers. I will grant not as big as your own currently or in the last 20 years but as I said, you cant ignore the reason behind this. If we had had one relegation in the lasts 15 to 20 years, over 100 European games and regular top 6 football to watch over the past 20 years, I can guarantee our crowds will be over 48,000 as well and I will conceded that not all of them will be die hard fans. Their money however would be very welcome.
Out of interest how many of the say 48,000 you get week in week out are, in your opinion, die hard b&w supporters and how many are plastic fans who would support any team that was successful? Honestly? If you think they are all passionate mags then your conning yourself pal.
I think that the mere fact its almost 60 years since you last won a trophy of note and 40 years for us and yet we still pull in nearly 80,000 fans every 2 weeks is remarkable. Both sets of fans deserve medals the size of dustbin lids for endurance and loyalty imo.