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More proof if needed that their is a lot of unrest in the camp


Leeds United: Illan Meslier hung out to dry by teammates amid Joe Cole and Henry Winter verdicts with job now on the line
 
wakeybreakyheart said:
Why not get some practise in ahead of next season. All you have to do is approach each game with a good dose of reality. When you expect to lose and accept relegation it does not upset at all.
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No problem with losing or playing crap but definitely prefer when we're all together and getting behind the team and club. Hearing fans booing and chanting against hard working employees is another matter.

Each to their own and the fans all pay good money so not saying they shouldn't if that's how they feel.

The bottom line though is we had something special under Marcelo and preferred to go in another direction to try and retain PL status, many on here supported that decision and now it's not worked out want to get rid of those decision makers. Personally I'd have been 100% comfortable being relegated under Bielsa as long as he agreed to stay on to try and bring us back and we'll never know if he would have been agreeable to that.

Supporting the club now is fairly joyless in comparision and not because of results or league position.
 
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Suppose if we do end up the Championship we're now ripe for a Qatari take over that would please some. However being their 2nd or 3rd team is not something that I personally would wish to embrace and that's before we get onto sportswashing etc.
 
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Jammy 07 said:
No problem with losing or playing crap but definitely prefer when we're all together and getting behind the team and club. Hearing fans booing and chanting against hard working employees is another matter.

Each to their own and the fans all pay good money so not saying they shouldn't if that's how they feel.

The bottom line though is we had something special under Marcelo and preferred to go in another direction to try and retain PL status, many on here supported that decision and now it's not worked out want to get rid of those decision makers. Personally I'd have been 100% comfortable being relegated under Bielsa as long as he agreed to stay on to try and bring us back and we'll never know if he would have been agreeable to that.

Supporting the club now is fairly joyless in comparision and not because of results or league position.
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Jammy totally agree mate, however I come back tothe gambles the club made which now turn out to have lost and lost big.

When the fans bought into, without much joy, replacing Bielsa, they bought into it because Orta had said he spent 2 years watching Jesse Marsch to make sure they had the right man to take over the running of Bielsa’s players and his academy. We were told a seamless handover and dynamic pressing football. What we got was shyte and Sunday League chaos. We feel cheated and lied to by a bloke who had more credit in the bank than many. He has lost all credibility with many of us just for that…..
 
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Jammy 07 said:
No problem with losing or playing crap but definitely prefer when we're all together and getting behind the team and club. Hearing fans booing and chanting against hard working employees is another matter.

Each to their own and the fans all pay good money so not saying they shouldn't if that's how they feel.

The bottom line though is we had something special under Marcelo and preferred to go in another direction to try and retain PL status, many on here supported that decision and now it's not worked out want to get rid of those decision makers. Personally I'd have been 100% comfortable being relegated under Bielsa as long as he agreed to stay on to try and bring us back and we'll never know if he would have been agreeable to that.

Supporting the club now is fairly joyless in comparision and not because of results or league position.
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I never booed us offv palace but did refuse to clap the players. Bunch of over paid privileged championship standard mostly too. I disagree with your hard working observation of the club. We will see on Tuesday who wants to commit to the cause. We have five subs and a coach too slow to use them. Leicester game is the last chance saloon.
 
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Doc said:
Jammy totally agree mate, however I come back tothe gambles the club made which now turn out to have lost and lost big.

When the fans bought into, without much joy, replacing Bielsa, they bought into it because Orta had said he spent 2 years watching Jesse Marsch to make sure they had the right man to take over the running of Bielsa’s players and his academy. We were told a seamless handover and dynamic pressing football. What we got was shyte and Sunday League chaos. We feel cheated and lied to by a bloke who had more credit in the bank than many. He has lost all credibility with many of us just for that…..
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Exactly. Nobody would have backed the sacking of Bielsa if we’d known the club hadn’t a clue what they were going to do from there on. Sadly they dont
 
Eireleeds1 said:
Exactly. Nobody would have backed the sacking of Bielsa if we’d known the club hadn’t a clue what they were going to do from there on. Sadly they dont
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Yet Rads is trying to convince everyone including the 49ers he knows what to do. Sadly he is a chancer who dare not sack Orta because e would not know what to do as he has no clue how to run a football club. So the idiot let's victor the chancer have the cheque book with no constraints. Orta is a complete and utter waster and does not do any checks on fitness or the mental strength of signings. How does someone like him manage to keep his job?. Did he write his own contract and severance package out and just tell rads to sign it. I would not let rads lead me up the garden path he is clueless... The effing chancer has blown all that was achieved
 
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Eireleeds1 said:
Exactly. Nobody would have backed the sacking of Bielsa if we’d known the club hadn’t a clue what they were going to do from there on. Sadly they dont
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Hence the saying ' be careful what you wish for '.

Anyway we're not done yet so onwards and upwards to Tuesday.
 
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Doc said:
Jammy totally agree mate, however I come back tothe gambles the club made which now turn out to have lost and lost big.

When the fans bought into, without much joy, replacing Bielsa, they bought into it because Orta had said he spent 2 years watching Jesse Marsch to make sure they had the right man to take over the running of Bielsa’s players and his academy. We were told a seamless handover and dynamic pressing football. What we got was shyte and Sunday League chaos. We feel cheated and lied to by a bloke who had more credit in the bank than many. He has lost all credibility with many of us just for that…..
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Orta's loyalty to Marsche whilst commendable proved to be misplaced.

Fook Hammers 1-0 at Bournemouth.
 
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