It was the kids that saved Jesse yesterday and accept that the players as a whole were fully behind Marsch maybe except Rodders. However the dilemma is that once the fans turn it becomes inevitable that Marsch goes. The fans are still slightly on side but Leicester, Fulham and first half yesterday showed the fans anger at Marsch, the boos isn’t a good sign. The kids realise they have an open goal because they rightly believe they won’t get the blame, so gives them confidence
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not saying it’s true but he says we made some adjustments during the first half and then again at half time.
genuine question, in your opinion… when the players dug us out of this hole in the second half , were they playing to instruction or did they just rip up the playbook?
We were a dogs dinner first half for sure… but their xg for the whole match was c1.5
Sides could always score more if they take all their chances but it doesn’t suggest they should have had more than the 2 they had by half time.
Interesting listening to match of the day guys talking about the positive attacking football we play… and also rightly criticising the defensive aspect. While our fans slag off our defensive organisation AND our predictable boring narrow football.
Hey ho. Midtable with a game in hand… sitting higher than the jamster’s predicted finish
Bielsa was sacked because he wouldn't tweak his system once teams had figured out that they could just drive centre halves straight through the heart of our team unopposed.
The poorer teams in this division have now figured out that a simple chip over our high press is the way to reverse the overload on us. Its up to Marsch to tweak the way we approach these games or he will also be gone. In one of his interviews after yesterday's game he just doubled down that his system worked and that we need to be even more aggressive with it. That's a bit worrying. At 1-0 yesterday I might have been inclined to sit back on it for 20 minutes or so and let Bournemouth come on to us where we could use our pace on the counter attack and just pick them off. They had to attack at that point and we could have used that against them. Instead we just embraced the chaos and end to end stuff and they just outplayed us. It's great to watch (I know you don't think so) but it's heart attack stuff and a bit reckless when you are winning. When you're 3-1 down with 40 minutes left its great and you might just win 4-3.
Just like Bielsaball, I think we could just be smarter at times and play the scoreboard rather than just think "**** it! Let's bomb forward!".
A big positive is that we had 4 shots on target yesterday and scored 4 goals. You do that and you win games.
we all just spout our opinions fella
Greenwood showed everyone how to take a set piece yesterday. Loved how he took his goal as well .. composure and technique. Just slowed himself down and walked up to it like it was the training ground. Outstanding.
****sake, I hope Dyche never happens. It’s not difficult to change. Just keep the defence intact. How many times in so many games do we see one on one runs at Meslier or three v one at our centre backs.
No to Dyche, just NO.
Again, can’t disagree. Last season he just tried to patch us up and we were hard to break down. This year he’s trying to play the expansive game he’s actually better known for (the famous 4-3 Salzburg game at anfield etc). Fans get hung up on the narrow v wide thing but he’s actually much closer to bielsa in terms of progressive play and football philosophy than some think. It’s why they picked him. Maybe he’s also just as stubborn.
Some great points here
and what’s wrong with sitting back from time to time and then go on a fast counter attack. We deffo have the pace and skill to counter with the players we have.Some great points here
Yep agree- we do it when we’re forced back by better teams. Looked dangerous on the break at anfield.
Bournemouth set up to play a certain way… and if we’d just sat back a bit they’d have felt compelled to push up and take chances - and likely offered us opportunities on the break.
I guess the counter to that is if we let them hoof long balls into the penalty box Moore would undoubtedly got in the end if most of them,
XG bollocks again milky ?not saying it’s true but he says we made some adjustments during the first half and then again at half time.
genuine question, in your opinion… when the players dug us out of this hole in the second half , were they playing to instruction or did they just rip up the playbook?
We were a dogs dinner first half for sure… but their xg for the whole match was c1.5
Sides could always score more if they take all their chances but it doesn’t suggest they should have had more than the 2 they had by half time.
Interesting listening to match of the day guys talking about the positive attacking football we play… and also rightly criticising the defensive aspect. While our fans slag off our defensive organisation AND our predictable boring narrow football.
Hey ho. Midtable with a game in hand… sitting higher than the jamster’s predicted finish
Anyone watching the game knows Bournemouth did actually score 3 good goals and were more than capable of scoring a least a couple more.
he will blend in with the locals now after a saturday night out...........the women that is.
fan bollox Jammy. Thinking every chance should be a goal. Xg has its limitations but there is a science behind it - rather than a bottle of claret. Fine claret that it probably was.
point, as you well know, being billing scuffs his shot or puts his chance in the stands 9 times out of 10 etc.
genius that he was he never worked out that eventually someone had to stop that cb who’d then pass the ball to one of those talented midfielders or forwards.
hey stop sucking up to doc. Don’t forget my clear appraisal from watching the Leeds boro u21 game 2 weeks ago where I confidently predicted gnonto was ready to take the league by storm. Forza will back me up on that
yes i remember it well a nice sunny calm day as i remember it.hey stop sucking up to doc. Don’t forget my clear appraisal from watching the Leeds boro u21 game 2 weeks ago where I confidently predicted gnonto was ready to take the league by storm. Forza will back me up on that
Anyone who was at the game knows an xg of 1.5ish for Bournemouth is absolute nonsense. They were all over us 1st half, hence the booing from the Kop and the main reason for the dissatisfaction was the system employed by Marsche as it gives an advantage to less talented opponents.
So it's a consensus of opinion milky and not just mine
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I think the entire squad is behind Marsch, Rodders included. He may have acted like a petulant child after being substituted, but the fact he's already netted seven times this season shows he is in the right frame of mind.
Did the kids save him - quite the opposite. He has saved the kids. Under Bielsa, even with the injuries we had, youth barely got a look in. It would have been the likes of Tyler Roberts and Klich coming off the bench with Summerville given the odd minute here and there.
Bielsa's rapport with the club and fanbase was so great, there would ignore how badly we played, and how were were being smashed every week.