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Yep. It's the modern game and there are good reasons for it. Problem for us is we never seem to see the rewards of it that other sides do, even though we've been big on playing this way for a good while now. We don't know why and it frustrates us.

It works better away. Our away record is decent. But yeah, we have a big problem taking initiative at home.

And it's not about the fans.

22k give or take again today so the support is holding up for now. Not bad considering they've seen. 3 league wins since January.

And he sees fit to criticise? Really?

Get rid of this clown. Sooner the better
 
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I wanted the Walter experiment to work because who wouldn’t want the promise of attacking football after the Rosenior boredom of last year.

Tim himself did nothing to discourage the expectations that he would deliver heart attack football.

For whatever reason, it hasn’t worked.

Acun needs to pick a Manager who plays players in their natural positions, picks them on form rather than reputation, and carries enough weight with players so we don’t have back room mutinies going on.

In a squad the size we have, all players including Coyle, Slater and Jones should expect to be dropped when they put in a below par performance.

I think there’s also something to be said about the next Manager tackling the language barrier that exists with some of our players and makes more effort so that the foreign lads feel more integrated into the team.

The season is salvagable. The players we have can do much better if they are played to their strengths.
 
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I wanted the Walter experiment to work because who wouldn’t want the promise of attacking football after the Rosenior boredom of last year.

Tim himself did nothing to discourage the expectations that he would deliver heart attack football.

For whatever reason, it hasn’t worked.

Acun needs to pick a Manager who plays players in their natural positions, picks them on form rather than reputation, and carries enough weight with players so we don’t have back room mutinies going on.

In a squad the size we have, all players including Coyle, Slater and Jones should expect to be dropped when they put in a below par performance.

I think there’s also something to be said about the next Manager tackling the language barrier that exists with some of our players and makes more effort so that the foreign lads feel more integrated into the team.

The season is salvagable. The players we have can do much better if they are played to their strengths.

How about we sign players that lend an XI to play in natural positions? We signed drameh when RB was the least of our worries, we signed about 10 CMs, and three wingers. To fit players in was always going to involve throwing players around. Recruitment has been an issue for a long time. Signing zaroury in January and pushing Philogene onto the right was another example. Further back, signing twine when we had tufan so twine ended up wide, etc.
 
The football under Walter being turgid doesn’t change Rosenior’s football from being turgid. Both are crap.

Yeah this has been done to death. Rosenior was developing and building and we were seeing signs of progress, going back to the beginning doesn't make any sense.
 
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I’d just like a manager who uses defenders to defend, midfielders to do a mix of defending and attacking, and strikers who attack (and are actually given the ball enough).

Neither Tim Walter or Liam Rosenior delivered this.

You can call it ‘modern football’ or whatever you like (or call me a dinosaur?) - our attacking players have been held back for the last two seasons because of this ‘wonderful’, ‘innovative’ playing-out system.

It kills the atmosphere and it explains the home form.

I got it wrong thinking Tim Walter would be an upgrade on Liam Rosenior. But then I was promised something entirely different.

Wrong thread. Ffs.
 
I wonder how the players feel about Timmy furiously waving his hands and seemingly sulking on the touchline if they don’t barrel forward regardless of what’s in front of them?

He acts in a way that would piss me off I think.
What if it was askew queueing at the bar and Tim could see a gap further along where there was no one there but Akers is waiting behind five people??
 
I wonder how the players feel about Timmy furiously waving his hands and seemingly sulking on the touchline if they don’t barrel forward regardless of what’s in front of them?

He acts in a way that would piss me off I think.

The moment in the second half when he lost his rag with Coyle for not taking a man on.

But Coyle played a nice one two and got round his man anyway. That wound me up something chronic.
 
The moment in the second half when he lost his rag with Coyle for not taking a man on.

But Coyle played a nice one two and got round his man anyway. That wound me up something chronic.

I did find it funny that coyle basically said after the game
We couldnt live with their change of gameplan, and maybe we should have changed something

But walters one dimensional as ****
And every oposition manager out thinks him

And i bet the players were glad when he had a touchline ban
Guys annoying as **** to see on the touchline
 
I did find it funny that coyle basically said after the game
We couldnt live with their change of gameplan, and maybe we should have changed something

But walters one dimensional as ****
And every oposition manager out thinks him

And i bet the players were glad when he had a touchline ban
Guys annoying as **** to see on the touchline
Every?
 
How about we sign players that lend an XI to play in natural positions? We signed drameh when RB was the least of our worries, we signed about 10 CMs, and three wingers. To fit players in was always going to involve throwing players around. Recruitment has been an issue for a long time. Signing zaroury in January and pushing Philogene onto the right was another example. Further back, signing twine when we had tufan so twine ended up wide, etc.
Tbf, I think that's what we finally did this summer under Walter. The "10 cm's" was how you could sum up the recruitment during Rosenior's time.
We absolutely needed a RB to challenge & deputise for Coyle. Drameh was a good signing for that. But he's not a LB, and imo we should be playing a LB there, not Drameh. Coyle's been great, apart from yesterday when he was bang average. Maybe give Coyle the occasional rest and see what Drameh brings at RB, or give Coyle 70 minutes and use Drameh as fresh legs for the remaining 20 (+5 or so)?
We desperately needed wingers. Thankfully we finally signed some. And we have Jarvis, Longman and, err, Sinik waiting in the 'wings' too. Millar, Belloumi, Kamara were all needed, and good signings (then 'sod's law' kicks in).
The squad is now way more balanced and deep than it's been for some long time (the depth being something you commented on recently too).
Players should be played in 'natural positions' as much as possible. We're still not doing that, in spite of now having the depth and options. And, as we both now agree, the tactics are the worry (rather than the previous issues like "10 cm's", no balance, etc).
 
I did find it funny that coyle basically said after the game
We couldnt live with their change of gameplan, and maybe we should have changed something

But walters one dimensional as ****
And every oposition manager out thinks him

And i bet the players were glad when he had a touchline ban
Guys annoying as **** to see on the touchline
We didn't do too badly for his touchline ban game, Burnley? Coincidence?