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Underestimate china at your peril as they are getting stronger and stronger and there are many countries who are keeping a sharp eye on them....

No need to underestimate China Dai. They are the worlds top superpower and have brilliantly allied themselves with Russia with the recent multi billion gas/oil deal.
 
My point exactly: how could they ignore Germanys rearmament that had been going on since Hitlers coup de etat. There are strong parallels to the Ukraine conflict in that aspect: Russia is the only major country, except from China, that has consistently increased their military budget over the past decade...

Because many Britons were sympathetic towards the stipulations of the Versailles Treaty placed upon Germany in 1919. Also with the collapse of the entire world economy, Britain were in no position to do anything about it. You also have to consider the League of Nations (modern UN and just as useless) was in effect dead as USA followed a policy of isolation.
 
I could not care less about any other country as long as they leave us alone. that is the time i would fight. If A wants to invade B then let their closest neighbors sort it out and not us . Let the arabs sort out the arab world if they have a mind too. And we should stop ramming democracy down the throats of every one, Let them run things their way as who are we to say what is right or wrong.
 
so if germany invaded the UK tomorrow it would be presumably, in your opinion, be a matter for the UK and germany to sort it out between themselves. berk.
 
I could not care less about any other country as long as they leave us alone. that is the time i would fight. If A wants to invade B then let their closest neighbors sort it out and not us . Let the arabs sort out the arab world if they have a mind too. And we should stop ramming democracy down the throats of every one, Let them run things their way as who are we to say what is right or wrong.

And what if A shares the same political and ideological beliefs as Hitler? That would be an incredibly dangerous and idiotic path to go down Dai.
 
I dont know how true this is but found this on a web site it says we actually share the resources with Argentina in an agreement reached in 1995.

One of the first acts of Carlos Menem, on becoming president of Argentina in 1989, is to open peace negotiations with Britain. They make little immediate progress, but hostilities are formally concluded by 1995.


A treaty in 1995 also tackles another important issue which has been a subtext in the conflict. Geological surveys suggest that there may be extensive oil reserves in the Falklands region. This, as much as national pride, is a reason for claiming possession.

Although no progress is made on the matter of sovereignty, a compromise on oil is reached in 1995. Britain and Argentina agree to share, in proportions varying in different regions, any wealth deriving from the anticipated oil fields. The British share is to be used to defray the cost of the war and the garrison. Licences are issued in 1996. Exploratory drilling begins in 1998.


Read more: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/plaintexthistories.asp?historyid=ac51#ixzz344bCBS5P

It looks as though that came to an end in 2007 -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6501693.stm

Begs the question why Britain would share half the oil reserves of The Falklands.

The use of The Falklands as a route/base to the southern polar regions for other natural reserves should not be underestimated.
 
So typical for you dai. Things aren't that simple: fx we (the western world) depend on oil from the middle east, and have to protect the source, even though the Arabs hate our guts for various reasons.

The time where one could stay on one's island(!) is over. Modern countries have to involve themselves in in globalised cooperation, and pick their battles from what is the common best.

Starting a new dispute: I'm a fan of the EU aswell. Yes I feel a storm coming...
 
no wonder, denmark is a small nation which can't fend for itself unlike the likes of the UK, Germany, so needs to cluster together with others to be taken seriously…………;)
 
no wonder, denmark is a small nation which can't fend for itself unlike the likes of the UK, Germany, so needs to cluster together with others to be taken seriously…………;)

Weakness can be a strength. As no other superpower of the medieval times could accept the others to have the Oeresunds toll (access to the Baltic), they left Denmark to its insignificance.
Today, by boasting our living standards, example democracy, health care and educational system, Danes do have a voice worth listening to globally too.
 
we should mind our own business and not worry about anyone else....War solves nothing but the loss of innocent lives and if we was to stay out of these disputes between other countries they would be alive today. war is not the answer unless there is a world war and our country is threatened. There are tyrants running loads of countries including ours but they are to powerful for us to invade so we join the yanks in whatever war is going on....Unacceptable and a total waste of money and lives. We act as if its Christmas and birthdays all come at once if we can send our troops into another conflict. the government love it as it stops people thinking about the real problems in our own country. We are hated all over the globe because we just cant mind our own business and too quick to interfere in other countries business trying to ram our way of life down their throats that they don't need...
 
Well, you're wrong in your assumptions. You list you bet. I was for intervention in Syria all the way. With or without the Russian acceptance in the security council.

Concerning the Ukraine situation it goes far longer back than WWII.
Ridiculous as it seems, it's NOT proven that Putin is behind the "spontaneous" riots, and furthermore Ukraine isn't a member of any alliance, fx the NATO you thrashed, and therefore it's there for the taking. As is Georgia, Tibet, Nicaragua, Taiwan, Mozambique... Do you want me to go on?

No. I don't think anyone wants that.

So you were all for using force to remove one brutal dictator from a middle eastern country, but completely against using force to remove a far worse brutal dictator from another middle eastern country. OK.

And you are wrong, NATO agreed to protect Ukraine as part of Ukraine giving up their nukes.
 
I'm not sure if you misunderstand me on purpose. Ukraine is not a NATO member, hence nobody is even close to consider helping them militarily.
I'm not sure where you're going with the dictators? Bush Jr. attacked Iraq, nobody knows why, but it sure as he'll wasn't to remove Saddam.
Stopping what will be a civil war for ages to come is so much different, to me at least...
 
Everybody knows that there will be no military intervention by NATO against Russia for the simple reason and that is it will guarantee world war three and a full scale nuclear war.
 
UN could try to secure Ukraines borders, but that would be vetoed by both China and Russia.
The reasons for EUs feebleness is military export to Russia(UK, France and Germany), and import of gas to most of south/central/east Europe.
 
I could not care less about any other country as long as they leave us alone. that is the time i would fight. If A wants to invade B then let their closest neighbors sort it out and not us . Let the arabs sort out the arab world if they have a mind too. And we should stop ramming democracy down the throats of every one, Let them run things their way as who are we to say what is right or wrong.

Why did you join the Armed Forces if you were/are against protecting the county's interests .
 
If you are teacher then it is easy to see why your country is so bad at economic output compared to ours. You logic is quite frankly frigging stupid and here you wouldn't last long as a teacher because we value education. If you think the people of the Falklands are subjugated then I have absolutely no reason to believe you are a teacher at all, instead you come across as a bitter troll who got owned in such epic proportions that you are stupid enough to try and turn this whole situation into a subjugation issue.

I think your part in this discussion is over, I will not reply to you again in this thread because your trolling is no longer worth my time.

I disagree with Mikras views on this subject, but ive met the guy ,had lunch with the guy and can tell you he is indeed a teacher .

He isnt a troll either, sometimes people have strong views on stuff, i made my views clear earlier on in the thread and wont bother making them once again, Geo politics is a subject where its hard to prove or dis prove, we will just go round in circles .
 
Not very unlike most other discussions on this board. I have great plans for new OT-threads, but I'm saving those for after the world cup.
Nice "lunch" BTW norway: you in Copenhagen anytime soon?
 
Why did you join the Armed Forces if you were/are against protecting the county's interests .

Its because of joining the arm forces that you get to see the real suffering of innocent people, the Falklands taught me a valuable lesson that no life is worth dying for a poxy bit of land that we don't need or want...