Match Day Thread Vs Stoke (A)

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Wow - haven't seen the match. Thought Klopp set the team wrong at the start but what a turnaround. Massive 3 points!! Buzzing! Still annoyed about Bournemouth but another 3 points and one less game to play.
 
Didn't watch, took the family up Mamtor in the sunshine instead.

Good match?

Guessing there was a lot of moaning since we went 1-0 behind?
 
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Fantastic win. A sign of the character that Klopp has injected into these players. Not a surprise to see some of the usual moaners having a go on here again as usual, then disappearing once we turn it around. No-one ever expects to go to places like Stoke and get an easy 3 points, I dunno why people on here expect us to take the lead within 5 minutes then have a really comfortable, easy game from them for the rest of it? Idiots.
As one of the more negative posters i think that is harsh. I very rarely slate players, i still believe in Moreno. I very rarely slate the managers choices, clearly klopp got it wrong today and made suitable changes. Personally given our performances against the top six i believe we should be challenging for the title.
We are not
That means we haved ****ed up somewhere and given how many points everyone bar Chelsea have dropped (and even they went a month without winning) that tells you how poor we have been.
How many of the games we have lost / drawn have we looked like winning. Very very few of them.
Jimmy seems to be the most insightful on this board but he gets battered for sticking up for certain players.
The optimists can now point to the win against stoke - the pessimists, can point to Bournemouth all in the space of a week.
I dont believe any of us think we should smash these sides but we need to play better against them - if you not too sure what I am talking about rewatch the first half today.
Do the pessimist s come on and have a go when we lose?
Why do you feel the need to call those who are saddened by our persistent poor perfomances in, not some now - Many games this season.
Are we there cheering, screaming dying by whatever stream we can get - yes
Are we singing the same songs- yeah
We have enough haters without hating on ourselves
Board for opinions this

That said if it your opinion we are negative twats - thats fine <laugh>

Ps well done lads - great win
 
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Luckily for the thread I couldn't post as I was watching on me phone lol...would probably have been considered somewhat negative first half :emoticon-0130-devil

Obviously with injury and illness Klopp took a gamble first half...and it blew up in his face.

Changed it second half and since the players he was trying to rest provided the turn around..the gamble worked.

Still doesn't take away that we are ****ing awful at the back lol...but it IS a win which I'd take any day from a mixed performance..
 
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As one of the more negative posters i think that is harsh. I very rarely slate players, i still believe in Moreno. I very rarely slate the managers choices, clearly klopp got it wrong today and made suitable changes. Personally given our performances against the top six i believe we should be challenging for the title.
We are not
That means we haved ****ed up somewhere and given how many points everyone bar Chelsea have dropped (and even they went a month without winning) that tells you how poor we have been.
How many of the games we have lost / drawn have we looked like winning. Very very few of them.
Jimmy seems to be the most insightful on this board but he gets battered for sticking up for certain players.
The optimists can now point to the win against stoke - the pessimists, can point to Bournemouth all in the space of a week.
I dont believe any of us think we should smash these sides but we need to play better against them - if you not too sure what I am talking about rewatch the first half today.
Do the pessimist s come on and have a go when we win?
Why do you feel the need to call those who are saddened by our persistent poor perfomances in, not some now - Many games this season.
Are we there cheering, screaming dying by whatever stream we can get - yes
Are we singing the same songs- yeah
We have enough haters without hating on ourselves
Board for opinions this

That said if it your opinion we are negative twats - thats fine <laugh>

Ps well done lads - great win

The bottom teams don't play in the same way as the top teams though...

We aren't as effective against teams that sit back and give us no space centrally, its not that we have been dropping points, its the fact that we haven't got the quality or the correct sort of players to break these types of teams down.

The point is if you are constructive in your criticism, its fine, but stuff like criticising the manager for not starting players that weren't able to play over 45 minutes is ridiculous.
 
The bottom teams don't play in the same way as the top teams though...

We aren't as effective against teams that sit back and give us no space centrally, its not that we have been dropping points, its the fact that we haven't got the quality or the correct sort of players to break these types of teams down.

The point is if you are constructive in your criticism, its fine, but stuff like criticising the manager for not starting players that weren't able to play over 45 minutes is ridiculous.

Tbf I have never done that regarding manager decisions. Those that do are very much in the minority - I think
But they aren't idiots - they are driven by the same passion for the club that we have. It hurts to see us so capable in one game then not in the next.

Ftr I completely agree with your diagnosis on not having the correct quality to break down these teams.

However that means that you and I are indirectly calling our manager because we think we know better (which is why I steer clear of those kinds of comments) even constructive criticism is critising the manager - a great man who was once asked why he uses the term **** off so often to which he responded he has never found the grammatical equivalent.

Why is it better to say we didn't play well today because I believe that we should have used a 3-1-3-3 formation, Davies would have been better In this formation because.....
(That is still critical of the manager as he used a different formation)
As opposed to Manager was **** cause he doesn't know what he is doing.