Off Topic Vote - HIAG's best wum **** up

[PINKIE]

Part of the problem with this debate is the fact that that mental conditions are held against the people who have them in a bizarre way whereas physical conditions are not.
If I was to say that a poster wrote like he had a broken arm, this wouldn't be considered to be much of an attack on the poster, nor an attack on people with broken arms. It would just be odd. I suppose the problem with conditions like autism, aspergers etc is that it might genuinely be possible to diagnose them given enough written content, but it still shouldn't be considered insulting to say that someone appears to be autistic. We all have some degree of autism and its not a bad thing to be autistic.

I tend to agree. It wasn't even an issue until Saints/HIAG decided to try and score cheap points with it. Saints jumped on Ginger's comment, then HIAG joined in. They both then started giving it the faux moral outrage, until I pointed out that HIAG had made similar comments and exposed their hypocrisy.

It should never really have been an issue in the first place.

 

[Hoddle is a god]

priceless ... meltdown extraordinaire ... if you allude to "kid on the bus" I assume you are not meaning a young goat (that's why "they have to be children")... although in your world who knows for sure?

In the particular instance to which (I assume) you are referring, I think I likened Skiddy to a special needs' person who, when on a bus, screams abuse at fellow passengers.

It is a fact that there are such unfortunates who do this. I am not making fun of them, I am merely observing that there are those who exhibit these traits. In likening Skiddy's behaviour to such persons, I am not casting any aspersions on those unfortunates who suffer these types of behaviours. I am not even insulting Skiddy, as I am merely observing that Skiddy acts like someone with this unfortunate condition.

In the past, I have observed that Pixie exhibits the same type of behaviours that are exhibited by those suffering with Autism. The trait that I had most in mind is that where the sufferer fixates on one particular subject or task or activity, and cannot break away from it. It is a fact that this is a trait of certain Autistic people, and it is a fact that Pixie has, on many occasions, exhibited this trait.

In neither instance - regarding either Skiddy or Pixie - have I mocked persons suffering a mental disability.

Further, if it is admitted by either Skiddy or Pixie that they do, in fact (as I have closely observed) suffer from a mental disability, I would be the first to offer my sincere sympathies to either of them and my apologies if they took anything I said as being insensitive to their condition.

 

[AKCJ]

This thread is the arse end of not606.

Deary me.


[HASHTAG]#meltdownsgalore[/HASHTAG]

 

[Hoddle is a god]

I cannot see Pixie's comments, but I really do hope that he isn't trying to defend Skiddy's deplorable attack on Matth for being mentally disabled.

 

[PowerSpurs]

Looks like I should be working for ACAS.....

 

[PINKIE]

In the past, I have observed that Pixie exhibits the same type of behaviours that are exhibited by those suffering with Autism. The trait that I had most in mind is that where the sufferer fixates on one particular subject or task or activity, and cannot break away from it. It is a fact that this is a trait of certain Autistic people, and it is a fact that Pixie has, on many occasions, exhibited this trait.

It's got **** all to do with Autism mate.
It usually takes the form of me having to ask you the same question repeatedly because you try and squirm out of it when you know you've ****ed up

 

[Hoddle is a god]

By the way, I'd like to clarify a point.

When I wrote about Skiddy's behaviour being akin to those unfortunates who yell abuse at passengers on a bus, I can't remember if Skiddy had his knob out in his hand?

Perhaps someone could get Pixie to go trawling through my earlier postings to clarify the matter?

 

[PINKIE]

Looks like I should be working for ACAS.....

No mediation needed here. HIAG and Saints have tried to wum and have ended up exposing their hypocrisy.
They could have avoided it if they had wanted to.

 

[AKCJ]

Can we all agree that the last few pages of this thread be wiped from memory?

Who cares if someone called someone else a nasty name? Lets be adults, apologise and forget.

Christ's sake. Some of you lot have kids.

 

[remembercolinlee]

Colossal mistake to forget that you'd called the Nazis fascist though, rather than just Le Pen!
I still can't believe that there is anyone stupid enough to run the line of argument that Pete did on that one......

It did take a special kind stupid to go there but he was well up to the task!

 

[remembercolinlee]

Pete has your number Sock-Dodger

Let it go mo fo

 

[Hoddle is a god]

So, let's summarise.

Bambi has refused point-blank to condemn Skiddy's vicious and insensitive attack on Matth's mental disorder. I presume that Pixie is refusing to do the same?

Assuming that this is to remain their stance, I cannot see that we have any choice but to move on from this sorry episode, although I am sure that all of you, like me, will have been left soiled by the experience.

 

[PINKIE]

@Hoddle Is A God This saintsfan account of yours isn't really very bright or interesting.

Can you just get back to providing us with your comedy **** ups and predictions, so that we can get this thread back on track. Cheers mate

 

[Hoddle is a god]

Christ's sake. Some of you lot have kids.

That is true; and I am extremely grateful that neither of mine act like Skiddy, Bambi or Pixie.

But, as you say, I think we should let this all rest, now.

 

[Saintsfan08]

So, let's summarise.

Bambi has refused point-blank to condemn Skiddy's vicious and insensitive attack on Matth's mental disorder. I presume that Pixie is refusing to do the same?

Assuming that this is to remain their stance, I cannot see that we have any choice but to move on from this sorry episode, although I am sure that all of you, like me, will have been left soiled by the experience.

Yep, Piskie will still not speak directly about skiddy's comments. He can set the record straight if he likes but for now he thinks what skiddy said was perfectly acceptable

 

[remembercolinlee]

Can we all agree that the last few pages of this thread be wiped from memory?

Who cares if someone called someone else a nasty name? Lets be adults, apologise and forget.

Christ's sake. Some of you lot have kids.

Apologise...are you ****ing kidding ... these are men and this is the net where only the weak back down...you pussy

 

[Saintsfan08]

Part of the problem with this debate is the fact that that mental conditions are held against the people who have them in a bizarre way whereas physical conditions are not.
If I was to say that a poster wrote like he had a broken arm, this wouldn't be considered to be much of an attack on the poster, nor an attack on people with broken arms. It would just be odd. I suppose the problem with conditions like autism, aspergers etc is that it might genuinely be possible to diagnose them given enough written content, but it still shouldn't be considered insulting to say that someone appears to be autistic. We all have some degree of autism and its not a bad thing to be autistic.

It's all about context mate. Skiddy didn't imply that matt had Autism, he used it as a stick to beat him with. Hiag has done what you claim shouldn't be considered insulting, skiddy has done something completely different.

 

[PINKIE]

I am sure that all of you, like me, will have been left soiled by the experience.

Every time you post on this forum, you are left soiled by the experience mate



p.s. That's not meant as an insult to people with incontinence .....

 

[Saintsfan08]

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Sell out above

 

[FosseFilberto]

So, let's summarise.

Bambi has refused point-blank to condemn Skiddy's vicious and insensitive attack on Matth's mental disorder. I presume that Pixie is refusing to do the same?

Assuming that this is to remain their stance, I cannot see that we have any choice but to move on from this sorry episode, although I am sure that all of you, like me, will have been left soiled by the experience.

... I've neither condemned or condoned it ... I've commented that I wouldn't have referred to it personally which would be indicative of my views on the subject to all but a dumb ass like yourself ...

I would however appreciate it if you could find it within yourself to offer the board a sincere apology for your references to autism and childhood mental conditions which have been an all too frequent last resort of yours on the many occasions that you have been left naked and squirming in battles of wit and penmanship on this forum.... such vicious and insensitive outbursts must be hurtful and humiliating to those who are unfortunate enough to suffer from such conditions, as I'm sure we all agree...

Please don't bottle this like you have done on other issues ... your inability to take reponsibility for your actions is embarrassing for all of us ... we expect higher standards of behaviour from fellow football fans. .