Villas-Boas

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Imo, his biggest problem is his age, he's done nothing 'himself', what he's achieved was seriously on the back of others. How can you expect senior players to respect someone who has no experience themselves to draw on. If it were me as a senior, I'd be thinking 'who does this twat think he is?'

Watching someone make decisions (Mourinho) and then having to make them yourself are a mile apart. As far as I'm concerned he can try his professor approach elsewhere.
 
notsosmartspur said:
Imo, his biggest problem is his age, he's done nothing 'himself', what he's achieved was seriously on the back of others. How can you expect senior players to respect someone who has no experience themselves to draw on. If it were me as a senior, I'd be thinking 'who does this twat think he is?'
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Which is why I think Levy would also bring in a DOF, Notso.
If someone with some stature is backing his decisions, then they'd carry more weight.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Which is why I think Levy would also bring in a DOF, Notso.
If someone with some stature is backing his decisions, then they'd carry more weight.
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Morning PNP. :)

Managers today are turning against that though aren't they insisting on control of all team personnel matters, Rodgers, Martinez, all recently voicing 'no way'.

I do have a nagging doubt about Levy's view on it though, he/we got badly burnt by DC (I can't bring myself to type his full name!) he doesn't like failure and may want to try it again. Personally I hope not, its hard enough finding one person, let alone 2 that get on...best of luck with that Dan!
 
I will go out on a limb here and say that if our next appointment turns out to be a real stinker, Joe Lewis may have to consider Levy's position at our club, assuming it's Levy's choice who we appoint of course.
 
Morning, Notso.

I'm not overly keen on the DOF role myself, but Levy might feel the need to bring one in.
He's been distracted during transfer windows recently by other concerns, like the stadium and there seems to be increased focus on the youth sides.
If we choose a very young manager like Villas-Boas, who's more familiar with the European set-up, then it wouldn't surprise me.
 
notsosmartspur said:
Imo, his biggest problem is his age, he's done nothing 'himself', what he's achieved was seriously on the back of others. How can you expect senior players to respect someone who has no experience themselves to draw on. If it were me as a senior, I'd be thinking 'who does this twat think he is?'

Watching someone make decisions (Mourinho) and then having to make them yourself are a mile apart. As far as I'm concerned he can try his professor approach elsewhere.
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Just as important, he seems to have zero man-management skills, and the personality of a cabbage.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
I wouldn't judge him on his time at Chelsea, as it seemed obvious to me that he was given a task to achieve and then not backed when he tried to do so.
The older players in the dressing room had too much power and they used it to bring in their own man, essentially.
It's worked out well for them, in the short term.

Hard to judge him on his time with Porto either, though.
His record there was excellent (over 88% win record), but you'd expect it to be.

The only way that I can see this as a possible appointment is if he's being brought in as part of a management team and the DOF role is making a comeback.
Our squad wouldn't pose the same problems that he had with Chelsea's, as we don't have a bunch of players that are his age and we're set up to play in his style already, but he wouldn't fill me with confidence.
I think that it might be a step back to try to take two forward, but I'm not convinced that we'd show the patience needed or that the current players would be appeased by installing him.
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completely agree PNP. Glad you put this, as I thought I was going to be by myself on this one. I'm amazed at how many people are totally against AVB. For the reasons you've suggested PNP, he could be a perfect appointment IMO. He also speaks pretty decent english, which was a major problem with Ramos.
 
I'll still believe this when it happens. Personally, I think it's just the usual boloocks you get in these situations, propagated by the usual suspects. I still think Moyes or Martinez are the favourites.
 
AVB comes then Chavs masterplan to destroy Spurs is complete.
Semi final Destruction, Champs league place, Income shattered ,
Players wanting out, and no future as a top 6 club.
Roman's money always win.
 
I'll support and get behind whoever's drafted in, though AVB certainly comes as a surprise. When I got the text I thought it was a wind up but when checking SC and also Paddy Power/ William Hill/ SkyBet etc, clearly they know (or think they know!) something which would put AVB in the driving seat.

Very strange appointment if it goes through.
 
I think he could be a decent appointment. Will be eager to prove himself after Chelsea. The football Porto played was great.
 
Roo said:
Why SOS? I really don't understand why everyone is so against this. Have I missed something major?
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It's more that I'm wary of the risk with him, it's very tough at the moment to tell whether he's a duff manager or a great one.

I'd prefer experience and relative success in Moyes than another inexperienced foreign manager with a few trophies who was too stubborn tactically at Chelsea.
 
A lot seem to be against appointing him i'm in two minds.
His age and lack of experience in the top job might go against him, on the other hand he might suit our style of play and could attract some decent players.
Of course he won't have a mad Russian watching him 24/7.
 
remembercolinlee said:
When I was 12 I wasplaying in a match where the keeper dived at a strikers feet and got kicked in the face...the ball bounced around and he got a hefty kick in the nuts...there was blood teeth and puke everywhere and the keeper was carried off in foetal position crying uncontrollably ...

After reading that AVB could be our manager I now know how bad that keeper felt
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That has made me laugh a lot. Blood, teeth and puke everywhere...

Oh God - I can't stop laughing at it. I think I might be a little tired and emotionally exhausted.
 
Yid Vicious said:
It's more that I'm wary of the risk with him, it's very tough at the moment to tell whether he's a duff manager or a great one.

I'd prefer experience and relative success in Moyes than another inexperienced foreign manager with a few trophies who was too stubborn tactically at Chelsea.
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but wasnt he brought in under a long term plan at chelsea, to try and bring some of the youth through, in preparation for the end of the "old guard"?

i can see why people may see it as stubborn tactics, but I just don't think he was right for Chelsea. I'm not suggesting he is the best decision for us, but I can see it working. - especially with our style of football, which is far more suited to him. Like PNP says, i don't think the chelsea spell is fair to judge him on.
 
Roo said:
Why SOS? I really don't understand why everyone is so against this. Have I missed something major?
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I'm not majorly against it, just more surprised at the situation in how he's (supposedly) being appointed.

We've sacked a guy who done wonders for our club, has years of experience in the Premier League and was loved by the majority of Spurs fans for the way he got us playing, for a guy who has 8 months premier league experience who didn't set the world alight in his time here with one of the leagues best teams.

I could understand approaching him if Harry left, but actually sacking Redknapp by seeing AVB as a step up, is in my eyes a huge risk.
 
With great risk comes great reward. Thats the spiderman quote right?

The more i think about it the more i like the idea of AVB.
* He is high profile (good for keeping players).
* He tries to play nice football. This mainly failed at Chelsea because their back 4 had no pace or stamina. He actually had a better league record than RDM as someone pointed out earlier.
* He will be doubly motivated to beat Chelsea rather than sit back and settle for 2 draws.
* Can we sign Falcao please?
* He is young, which i think is a good thing. I think Levy is going for a long term thing this time.

Can we afford him though?
 
I'd agree that it would be a big risk SoS, but I don't think that Redknapp was sacked for purely football reasons.
He tried to back Levy into a corner, forcing him to either give in to his contract demands or sack him.
We all know how that turned out and I think most of us could've predicted which of the two the chairman would choose, too.

Once that decision had been made, we have to look at the new appointment as a totally separate decision, in my opinion.
I'd prefer Moyes myself, but I can see why Levy might look to the really long game by going for someone like Villas-Boas.

I'd disagree with the suggestion that Redknapp was loved by Spurs fans, too.
I respect what he's done for the club and he definitely had his moments, but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him and he made some very dodgy comments about the fans.
His personality rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way.
I had more warmth towards Martin Jol, for example, despite his results being worse.
 
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