VAR
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They don't have tech to do all the things they claim they can do. Blurry " offside" lines, no certainty when the ball was played etc.
Nor are they committed properly to it. Done properly it might need maybe ten people all watching their own camera (not the match) and inform the ref immediately there is so something to look at.
But, as with football admin generally, there is no humility, no desire to learn the lessons of cricket and Rugby League who have adapted their systems over many years.
It is largely a farce, created by over paid blazers who have probably never played football or paid to watch it.
I'd want the ref and more specifically the idiot in the VAR van to explain why hand ball wasn't given whilst watching the video. Same with those boxing judges on Saturday.
It’s a strange thing when after many minuets of examining the incident it now appears to be hand ball
That even Lenny peters seen
Good post... there is no real reason why VAR should not work better... only the incompetence of the FA.
Cricket had a 4k frames per second camera. You could literally see the bat bend when the ball hit it. For offside, have an “umpires call”. I.e. if it is within inches then go with on field decision. There are so many sensible ways it could be used.
My biggest would be to make every decision identical. I watched teams like Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea etc get the ref referred to the screen. Yet Burnley, Crystal Palace etc have identical decisions staying with the on field. There is as little consistency in it as there was in “normal” refereeing!!
Or even better, just get it right.
The other Sports that use TV to improve the decision making of the officials seem to have it cracked.
Tennis, Cricket, both Rugby codes manage without this regular incompetance.
Could the 'fault' not be with the system, or the over-complicated Rules but with the officials.
An opportunity to 'Fast Track' former players into the role of VAR Advisors might improve the situation, PROVIDING the Referees will listen to them.
Nah, get rid. Even if they get it right, for supporters, watching from inside the stadium particularly, having to bottle up the ecstasy and emotion of their team scoring a goal, only to be able to fully release it once the game restarts, which by then the shear ecstasy and emotion has been diluted somewhat? All this whilst somebody draws imaginary lines across the pitch, sitting in an office somewhere, taking the drama off of the pitch, away from the supporters? As a spectacle it is making football less enjoyable, especially for those inside the stadium.
Is it right, because the bindippers and manure do not have screens for the fans to see, no other grounds can show the VAR replays?
I just think that the referees decision should be final in real time. Decisions should not be being dissected whilst the paying public sit waiting. The only way VAR could get near to working is by following the cricket model. Either a team gets one review and use it if they believe that a miscarriage of justice has taken place, if they are correct they keep their review, incorrect? Lose it. Also if an incident is referred to VAR and is not a clear miscarriage of justice and there is too grey of an area, then the referees say is final. This gives the referee his 'power' back and puts the decision making back onto him. Because otherwise referees will continue to become complacent and sleepwalk through the 90 minutes because they have VAR to fall back on. I think its unfair for the paying public, particularly those at the match, having their matchday spoiled by some anonymous bloke drawing lines on his television screen, sitting in some office miles away from the action.
VAR should not be used to closely scrutinize passages of play. If VAR has been used to check and acknowledges a defenders obvious handball but notices in the build up play an unfeasibly long pube on the attackers right bollock has strayed into an offside position, then thats tough ****. Its not an obvious mistake, it hasn't been raised by the manager or players of the defending team, so it should not be recognized and have no bearing on the final handball decision.
However, in general, it should be scrapped. There are too many grey areas in football. Even the hindsight of replays still has football pundits arguing. Let it fall on the referees in real time, as it always has done. We can blame them for their errors, but in the cold light of day we can all admit that they are only human and are capable of human error, particularly whilst under the pressure they are in. VAR must put them under even more pressure, the thought of them making a mistake after watching a slow motion video must be terrifying for them.
If the linesman had flagged mo salah offside like it’s his job to do
The defender would not of headed it because he was off side
However the linesman never flagged so the defender had to go for the header
Var is not working
The officials are not officiating there leaving it to tv evidence them making there own rules to work around the incedent
The defender would not of headed it because he was off side
However the linesman never flagged so the defender had to go for the header
Var is not working
The officials are not officiating there leaving it to tv evidence them making there own rules to work around the incedent
This rule needs scrapped where a player in an offside position can be onside via a deflection that goes to them. The linesmen have been told not to put their flags up until the phase of play has finished. It's too much of a grey area for defenders so they have to go for the ball with players like Salah on their shoulders.
Change it back, if they're offside when the ball is played then the flag goes up.
The fans all know it’s not working, pity the Authorities seem asleep again over a issue which is simple to correct.
This waiting til the phase of play is over is utter nonsense.
This waiting til the phase of play is over is utter nonsense.