Match Day Thread UTD v Taffs

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You're right. Memphis defo not cutting it. Young could play on the left coz Darmian is natural full-back so he should cover there. I don't know why LVG play winger as full backs?

It's like doing a jigsaw puzzle and you keep trying to fit the corner pieces in the middle.
 
They could have, however they didn't. This is very important. In football, unless you are Liverpool, imaginary goals are not often given and could havez should have, maybe counts for very little.
This is true but equally pretending that everything is peachy just because the result went your way leaves you open to a shock and ridicule when the opposition stop missing their chances and luck is no longer on your side. The results suggested that we were aces for much of the season but the performances suggested that we were a shambles. It turned out we were actually a shambles and the results were very flattering!

We've not won since November, we've not scored either. So ot was never going tobl be pretty bit we got the goals and the points. We deserved the won, no question. Good team spirit to keep going after they levelled and had a little spell too. Something we haven't seen enough of.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not sure we deserved the win. It was more of the usual, lots of possession that resulted in close to **** all while the opposition picked us off on the break. The concern is the opposition are pretty poor.

Swansea had kept a few clean sheets O believe and had been unlucky against Pool and City recently, plus their record v us is good so was never an easy game.

Just happy for the 3 points.
I'm happy with the three points as it has a positive impact on our league position. A draw was no good to us as it wouldn't have resulted in the change that may be required to get us into the top 4 at the end of the season. I never want United to lose but if I'd be offered a defeat today in exchange for LVG's dismissal then I would have taken it!

Whatever the guy achieves or doesn't achieve now he gets no credit from me. The mess he's overseen to date is just embarrassing. If he doesn't win the league this or next season he will be the manager who has spent the most without winning the PL. Ever.

If he does win it then he'll have bought it in the same way, or perhaps in an even more expensive way, than all the managers who have been accused, and rightly so, of buying the league. His reputation was built on that great young Ajax side. His career will end as a cheque book manager who chucked money around seemingly aimlessly.
 
They could have, however they didn't. This is very important. In football, unless you are Liverpool, imaginary goals are not often given and could havez should have, maybe counts for very little.

We've not won since November, we've not scored either. So ot was never going tobl be pretty bit we got the goals and the points. We deserved the won, no question. Good team spirit to keep going after they levelled and had a little spell too. Something we haven't seen enough of.

Swansea had kept a few clean sheets O believe and had been unlucky against Pool and City recently, plus their record v us is good so was never an easy game.

Just happy for the 3 points.



And...

CSKA were up for it first half. They bottled the second. We should have won, we were comfortably the better side but you take a point in Russia, no matter what. Its a tough place to go for any club.

We now need to beat these and PSV.

Didn't get one of the many penalties we should have either. Which didn't help. William handball and the foul on Mata were Stone wallers.

Rooney lucky in the end too

3 points off the top. I would say the results have happened somewhere. Though they could and should be better. Easy for me to say of course, I don't have the pressure or expectation on me.

First season back in europe. Just because some of our fans maybe thiughtbwe should be winning this, I realised were not Barcelona, so we won't. Though we should have got out the group, it was so tight, it changed 5 times of the final day.

They also beat City last season at the Etihad didn't they? They're no push overs but we should be winning this

We should have scored by now.

Finishing letting us down. Should be ahead really though PSV have had a few attempts too. Started to slowly as well.

<laugh> ar5e
 
This is true but equally pretending that everything is peachy just because the result went your way leaves you open to a shock and ridicule when the opposition stop missing their chances and luck is no longer on your side. The results suggested that we were aces for much of the season but the performances suggested that we were a shambles. It turned out we were actually a shambles and the results were very flattering!

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not sure we deserved the win. It was more of the usual, lots of possession that resulted in close to **** all while the opposition picked us off on the break. The concern is the opposition are pretty poor.

I'm happy with the three points as it has a positive impact on our league position. A draw was no good to us as it wouldn't have resulted in the change that may be required to get us into the top 4 at the end of the season. I never want United to lose but if I'd be offered a defeat today in exchange for LVG's dismissal then I would have taken it!

Whatever the guy achieves or doesn't achieve now he gets no credit from me. The mess he's overseen to date is just embarrassing. If he doesn't win the league this or next season he will be the manager who has spent the most without winning the PL. Ever.

If he does win it then he'll have bought it in the same way, or perhaps in an even more expensive way, than all the managers who have been accused, and rightly so, of buying the league. His reputation was built on that great young Ajax side. His career will end as a cheque book manager who chucked money around seemingly aimlessly.

Cool. So your minds made up regardless? No point discussing it with you then.
 
Cool. So your minds made up regardless? No point discussing it with you then.
Probably not, no. Given the resources and funds afforded to the guy the title in 3 seasons is expected.

Every other manager in the PL who has had the same time and money has won the league.
 
Me thinks that now the results have all gone pete tong, I've been put on ignore....

to save embarrassment for the poor fool who was wumming his own fans <whistle>
 
Probably not, no. Given the resources and funds afforded to the guy the title in 3 seasons is expected.

Every other manager in the PL who has had the same time and money has won the league.

Not quite but I get your point.

Though it took some of then 3 or 4 years and double the figure, others had spent as much by the time they won it and some haven't come close since they last won it yet have spent £500million.

Rodgers spent more and didn't win it. £210million compared with the £190million van Gaals spent. Some managers spend £100m to drag their title winning side into a relegation battle too.

There's that much money in the league its massively overplayed. Bournemouth just signed Iturbe ffs with an option to buy. He was tipped as a top player just a year or so ago.

If he wins it from here, he will have done a bloody brilliant job from this point onwards, because over turning a 9 point gap is no mean feat.
 
There's actually quite a fee who have spent more, and some did so 15 years ago.....

Ranieri
Redknapp
Pardew (a bit less, but at Newcastle... Wow)
Rafa
Rodgers
Hughes
AVB (bit less at individual clubs, significantly more combined)


Bar AVB that's all at one club, not a combination of clubs.

Ranieri spent so much to win nothing with Chelsea, as did Redknapp at Spurs.

Surprised at some but the stand out two are the RS clowns, who spent over half a billion between them and their team ended up significantly worse, ending their final seasons in midtable. Legends.
 
Why are putting Rodgers in the same bracket with LVG? It's not like Liverpool were ever in the title hunt these days apart from that freak season. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

The title is always the aim, doesn't matter spin you want to use to say the top 4 is the target. When you spend £300m but not involved in the hunt and knocked out of the CL groups, of course questions will be asked how Utd are seriously underachieving.
 
Why are putting Rodgers in the same bracket with LVG? It's not like Liverpool were ever in the title hunt these days apart from that freak season. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

The title is always the aim, doesn't matter spin you want to use to say the top 4 is the target. When you spend £300m but not involved in the hunt and knocked out of the CL groups, of course questions will be asked how Utd are seriously underachieving.

Pretty sure Ranieri also only had 1 season with Chelsea with the £200m he spent, but it's nice to spin the facts to suit an argument. Typical pigheadedness.

It's so obvious to anyone that with the players we bought we were expected to challenge for the title this season. I can easily find quotes of UIR saying the same before the season... if I wanted. Now he's re-writing history when things don't fit. It's the usual "make it up as you go along" bollox, most should expect from him <ok>
 
There's actually quite a fee who have spent more, and some did so 15 years ago.....

Ranieri
Redknapp
Pardew (a bit less, but at Newcastle... Wow)
Rafa
Rodgers
Hughes
AVB (bit less at individual clubs, significantly more combined)


Bar AVB that's all at one club, not a combination of clubs.

Ranieri spent so much to win nothing with Chelsea, as did Redknapp at Spurs.

Surprised at some but the stand out two are the RS clowns, who spent over half a billion between them and their team ended up significantly worse, ending their final seasons in midtable. Legends.

Now you're being ridiculous. Raneiri spent 4 years at Chelsea, only one with Abrahimovich. That season they finished 2nd and reach the CL semis in 03/04.

Redknapp expected to win the title at Spurs? Please tell me you had too many shots on your New Year's Eve party :emoticon-0114-dull:
 
I thought Stan would be correct tbh, I'm shocked at how much Ranieri spent at Chelsea 15 years ago though. A huge amount of money when £30million was megabucks.

And where do Spurs get their money from? They're spending is insane, several managers spent well over £100million.

Fergie wins though, £870million, 13 titles.
 
Now you're being ridiculous. Raneiri spent 4 years at Chelsea, only one with Abrahimovich. That season they finished 2nd and reach the CL semis in 03/04.

Redknapp expected to win the title at Spurs? Please tell me you had too many shots on your New Year's Eve party :emoticon-0114-dull:

Not saying they were expected to, but that others have spent huge money as well. Ranieri was expected to at Chelsea, Chelsea were expected to dominate forever don't forget.
 
Not quite but I get your point.

Though it took some of then 3 or 4 years and double the figure, others had spent as much by the time they won it and some haven't come close since they last won it yet have spent £500million.

Rodgers spent more and didn't win it. £210million compared with the £190million van Gaals spent. Some managers spend £100m to drag their title winning side into a relegation battle too.

There's that much money in the league its massively overplayed. Bournemouth just signed Iturbe ffs with an option to buy. He was tipped as a top player just a year or so ago.

If he wins it from here, he will have done a bloody brilliant job from this point onwards, because over turning a 9 point gap is no mean feat.
So far LVG has spent £250+million or are you going down the bullshit net spend route?

LVG won't win it from here unless he is granted another £50-£100million in the transfer window and he completely tears up his philosophy.