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Don't get me wrong I don't like the guy and think he's awful. But from a growth and financial POV he'll be much better, his policies and America first stance will improve their markets, bring down unemployment, bring down the price of things, I think he'll stabilise the Russia/Ukraine war and also the middle east ( only because those places know he's stupid enough to do things if they don't fall in line ). They have a border issue like we do and he'll deal with that more effectively ( some won't agree with how he does it but he will ) then Harris would. Plus as much as we don't like to admit it, what happens over their and then in turn in their markets massively effects us and the world as a whole and I think the world markets will react more positively to him over Harris.

As a person he's obviously extremely questionable at best. But for the reasons above I personally think he'd be the better choice for president for them and ultimately us.
Agree with just about every word .....excluding 'effect'. It's affect!!
 
Don't get me wrong I don't like the guy and think he's awful. But from a growth and financial POV he'll be much better, his policies and America first stance will improve their markets, bring down unemployment, bring down the price of things, I think he'll stabilise the Russia/Ukraine war and also the middle east ( only because those places know he's stupid enough to do things if they don't fall in line ). They have a border issue like we do and he'll deal with that more effectively ( some won't agree with how he does it but he will ) then Harris would. Plus as much as we don't like to admit it, what happens over their and then in turn in their markets massively effects us and the world as a whole and I think the world markets will react more positively to him over Harris.

As a person he's obviously extremely questionable at best. But for the reasons above I personally think he'd be the better choice for president for them and ultimately us.

Putting tariffs on imports doesn't bring prices down , not sure why anybody would think that
 
Don't get me wrong I don't like the guy and think he's awful. But from a growth and financial POV he'll be much better, his policies and America first stance will improve their markets, bring down unemployment, bring down the price of things, I think he'll stabilise the Russia/Ukraine war and also the middle east ( only because those places know he's stupid enough to do things if they don't fall in line ). They have a border issue like we do and he'll deal with that more effectively ( some won't agree with how he does it but he will ) then Harris would. Plus as much as we don't like to admit it, what happens over their and then in turn in their markets massively effects us and the world as a whole and I think the world markets will react more positively to him over Harris.

As a person he's obviously extremely questionable at best. But for the reasons above I personally think he'd be the better choice for president for them and ultimately us.
I genuinely haven’t seen any evidence that he’d be good for growth
Growth has been fairly stable since Obama around 2.3% through Obama, Trump & Biden (even ignoring Covid) and Biden recovery post Covid was the best in G7
Last time in he caused more unemployment whereas Biden, with Harris as VP have created lots of jobs.
He did cause huge corporate profits of course, but I don’t see that as a good thing
He massively increased the US trade deficit (which he pledged to reduce) and borrowing
I don’t know about his record on gas prices tbf
Immigrant number rose hugely last time he was in. He just used it as a political tool but fixed nothing.
There might be something in the Middle East issue but he is more likely to simply cut Ukraine off to sort that, as he tried before.

I do struggle to cut policy from person but I see no evidence that he has good policy anyway.
 
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Harris an unelected party member Presidential candidate..
WTF does that mean? She was elected in the Democratic primary, like Trump was in the Republican primary. Have you had a bang on the head?
Don't get me wrong I don't like the guy and think he's awful. But from a growth and financial POV he'll be much better ...
Jesus wept. Have you seen his economic policy? Massive import tariffs on everything. Pretty much every sane American economist thinks Trump will tank the US economy.
I think the price of Gas over there would come down under him for example, which is a major point for a lot of US citizens and I don't think lower gas prices would be bad for the American economy at all
The current fuel prices are about 2 cents off being the lowest for many many years. 'Gas' prices have been falling over there just like they have over here.

Anyway, Trump could still win, but my prediction for anyone who's interested (no hands go up) is that Harris will win with something to spare, maybe even by a large margin. Two reasons, 1) I think the polls have been wrong by using samples based on the last election rather than the likely changes in the electorate this time round (mostly more women and young people voting) and 2) the abortion issue plus Trump's general awfulness are bringing women voters out in large numbers, and they are voting for Harris in the same proportions as men are voting for Trump, but if more women vote in total then Harris has the edge.
 
Donald Trump, 78, the Republican nominee, is making make his third consecutive run for the White House. The businessman and reality TV star continues to repeat his false claim that Democrats stole the 2020 election from him. He is the first president to be impeached twice and convicted of a crime. Trump is also the oldest major party nominee in history and this summer survived two assassination attempts.

1. whoever says it's false knows nothing or is lying.
2. every conviction was a joke with bent prosecutors and bent judges and will be overturned. you'll see.
 
Last time in he caused more unemployment whereas Biden, with Harris as VP have created lots of jobs.

come on, dennis, the unemployment was due to dim&crappy state governors deciding to close down their states due to the fear and panic created by the deep state media lackeys in response to a virus created and released by the deep state swamp creatures.
 
I think who is the President of the USA have more effect on world matters than who is in charge ofvEU countries. The only mystery is, as others have said, why in a country of that size these two are the best they can come up with. Mind you for a long time you have to wonder why we have not come up with better leaders of both main parties.
The special relationship isn't what it was. Agree about our leaders, particularly those we've had on the right, including Farage, when the European right have been doing so well with very good leadership in France and Italy etc.
 
if harris wins, epstein's friends and all visitors to lolita island escape prosecution.
 
come on, dennis, the unemployment was due to dim&crappy state governors deciding to close down their states due to the fear and panic created by the deep state media lackeys in response to a virus created and released by the deep state swamp creatures.
Employment was slowing down to the lowest level for 10 years even before the pandemic.
 
1. whoever says it's false knows nothing or is lying.
2. every conviction was a joke with bent prosecutors and bent judges and will be overturned. you'll see.
Even he admits they lost now
There’s no evidence that the vote was cheated.
 
Well I’d rather wait for Howden to see what he said but off the top of my head
Trump is
A sex offender
Too old
A habitual liar
Someone who has a lot of failed businesses and no obvious success compared to what he started with financially
Going to kill young women by not allowing treatment that might cause a baby, who will also die anyway, to die.
Speaks appallingly about how he treats women, and other people.
Someone who trusts Elon Musk
A cheater at golf
Someone who tried to cheat the last election by encouraging others to ‘find him votes’
A sore loser
A racist
Someone who mocks disabled people.
Stole millions from charity to use for his own campaigning
Dodged his army service.
Walked in front of the Queen like a ****.


There’s loads more of course.

I think Harris would be better because
She isn’t Trump
She seems a decent human being
She seems more literate and articulate

The only thing I’ve ever really seen negative about her is that she used a relationship early in her career to get on. That may or may not be the case, but I don’t consider it as bad as the things Trump has done.

trump said abortions should be available for victims of rape, incest, and where the mother's life is in danger, even in states which decide on a general ban. i've seen a video of him saying it.
 
Correct, you have separated the politics from the personality.
You should to a certain extent
Mind you I don’t imagine there will be much difference practically in either of them tbh in growth etc.
I just think that the message that him winning would send that you can win by being a complete **** is one which should be avoided.
 
The term word salad could have been coined for Harris’s verbiage.
 
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