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Off Topic US General Election

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Nov 4, 2024 at 6:59 PM.

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  1. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    Trumps a protectionist and america first always. The rest of the world will be a calmer place if he gets in because he doesn’t get involved as much as Obama and Biden have and Harris will.
     
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  2. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    Agree with just about every word .....excluding 'effect'. It's affect!!
     
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    Putting tariffs on imports doesn't bring prices down , not sure why anybody would think that
     
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  4. dennisboothstash

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    I genuinely haven’t seen any evidence that he’d be good for growth
    Growth has been fairly stable since Obama around 2.3% through Obama, Trump & Biden (even ignoring Covid) and Biden recovery post Covid was the best in G7
    Last time in he caused more unemployment whereas Biden, with Harris as VP have created lots of jobs.
    He did cause huge corporate profits of course, but I don’t see that as a good thing
    He massively increased the US trade deficit (which he pledged to reduce) and borrowing
    I don’t know about his record on gas prices tbf
    Immigrant number rose hugely last time he was in. He just used it as a political tool but fixed nothing.
    There might be something in the Middle East issue but he is more likely to simply cut Ukraine off to sort that, as he tried before.

    I do struggle to cut policy from person but I see no evidence that he has good policy anyway.
     
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  5. jhe10

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    WTF does that mean? She was elected in the Democratic primary, like Trump was in the Republican primary. Have you had a bang on the head?
    Jesus wept. Have you seen his economic policy? Massive import tariffs on everything. Pretty much every sane American economist thinks Trump will tank the US economy.
    The current fuel prices are about 2 cents off being the lowest for many many years. 'Gas' prices have been falling over there just like they have over here.

    Anyway, Trump could still win, but my prediction for anyone who's interested (no hands go up) is that Harris will win with something to spare, maybe even by a large margin. Two reasons, 1) I think the polls have been wrong by using samples based on the last election rather than the likely changes in the electorate this time round (mostly more women and young people voting) and 2) the abortion issue plus Trump's general awfulness are bringing women voters out in large numbers, and they are voting for Harris in the same proportions as men are voting for Trump, but if more women vote in total then Harris has the edge.
     
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    1. whoever says it's false knows nothing or is lying.
    2. every conviction was a joke with bent prosecutors and bent judges and will be overturned. you'll see.
     
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    come on, dennis, the unemployment was due to dim&crappy state governors deciding to close down their states due to the fear and panic created by the deep state media lackeys in response to a virus created and released by the deep state swamp creatures.
     
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    The special relationship isn't what it was. Agree about our leaders, particularly those we've had on the right, including Farage, when the European right have been doing so well with very good leadership in France and Italy etc.
     
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  9. x

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    if harris wins, epstein's friends and all visitors to lolita island escape prosecution.
     
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  10. dennisboothstash

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    Trump you mean?
    Seems odd
     
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  11. dennisboothstash

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    Employment was slowing down to the lowest level for 10 years even before the pandemic.
     
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    Even he admits they lost now
    There’s no evidence that the vote was cheated.
     
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    trump said abortions should be available for victims of rape, incest, and where the mother's life is in danger, even in states which decide on a general ban. i've seen a video of him saying it.
     
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    there's a ton of evidence but none of it was allowed to be presented in court. anyway, the military will be monitoring the election.
     
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  15. dennisboothstash

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    You should to a certain extent
    Mind you I don’t imagine there will be much difference practically in either of them tbh in growth etc.
    I just think that the message that him winning would send that you can win by being a complete **** is one which should be avoided.
     
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    Nonsense
     
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    trump never went there. trump was the only one that volunteered evidence again epstein. don't believe everything you read in the guardian and the independent.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    And where do you get your news from?
     
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    you're wrong, but i can't stop you believing otherwise. and vice versa.
     
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    The term word salad could have been coined for Harris’s verbiage.
     
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