What poll is this?From the poll seem most think Peau d’orange will win.
Dont care if he wins or not. Was nice for a US president to not start any new wars for a change. Always a plus
He’s about 10 points behind ffs

What poll is this?From the poll seem most think Peau d’orange will win.
Dont care if he wins or not. Was nice for a US president to not start any new wars for a change. Always a plus

What poll is this?
He’s about 10 points behind ffs![]()
Oh right lol.The poll on here where Biden narrowly edges out Bobby for second.
What poll is this?
He’s about 10 points behind ffs![]()


Yeah it was pointed out to me mate lol.The poll at the top of this thread?
as for actual polls, Biden is not doing as good as Clinton was at this time. So I'd not bet my house on polls and I have no personal opinion on who is going to win, because that would require me actually doing some work to find out![]()
Yeah it was pointed out to me mate lol.
Not true that btw, primarily due to his overall lead on the national vote but also huge changes in the modelling to take better account of the electoral college.
The turnout already in some of the key marginals is already double in some cases what it was in 2016. Even with the massive effort they’ve put into suppressing the vote, it’s going to take some next level ****ery or Biden to be caught wedged up a goat for Trump to win from here.
Really, because I suspect I am about to be given a media conspiracy theory without any actual evidenceReally?![]()
Who's suppressing the vote of who?
and Hillary was doing better than Biden is now by state and over all
Hilary didn't have the black vote ... Biden does ... not that he has done anything to win it ... simply that Trump and his Proud Boys have done everything not to ... he will come to rue that, IMHO ... many black voters who have previously been apathetic and haven't bothered will ensure their votes count this time around ... and it won't be for Tango Man ...
Trump has enough of the black vote I think.
Plus only half of America votes, and that is the same for white and black voters, given the demographics it's not as important as the Swing state battles, I don't believe the polls, I think many Trump supporters just like to keep that to themselves for obvious reasons. Florida, there is no way Biden wins Florida. If he does, then I have the whole thing wrong because I see passion and support for one candidate and "we hate the other guy so we;ll vote against him
Biden fully behind the very laws that made black people prison commodities. Kamala has kept loads of black Americans in prison beyond their sentences for prison labour
You might not know these well known facts but many black Americans do
As for the proud boys. You know nothing about them. For a start I was around for when they started, I was watching the very podcast where they came up with it, and it had nothing to do with any crap the media claim. About 6 guys playing a drinking game and hanging out, name 5 cereals in 5 seconds or everyone punches your arm, boys club sort of thing. It just grew. The guy that started it was the Canadian guy who started up media company before that, a comedian, Gavin McKinnes, was also kind of a political commentator, but in an over the top way, he's a funny ****.
Then he started doing speaking events, and well, guess who show up at these events constantly, yep Antifa. Y'know those good guys in black, with weapons, m80s and condoms of urine and ****. That's what started the conflict between Proud boys and Antifa and it's gone from there.
It has almost entirely ethnic chapters, media doesn't tell you that do they?
Have you read the media reporting on Proud Boys and BLM meeting and talking? of course you haven't
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You have your opinion ... I've got mine ... I tend to give more credence to opinions of both work colleagues and the missus family in the US (very much Republican) than the US media or social media ... but each to their own.![]()
On the voting, of course
On the Proud Boys, I have the objective facts on what they are and how they started. One thing they aren't is white supremacist, because that's just a patently false claim in the media

Sounds like the FBI classifying them as an extremist group is just plain wrong then? ... perhaps Wiggy the Satsuma should consider whether the Ameican people's funding of the FBI through their taxes is an efficient use of public funds? ... oh but wait ... Donny is hardly an expert on tax paying![]()