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Who will win?..


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I like the bile spewed by Trump. Now has his team attacking fellow republicans who are doing an Andy Burnham and running from the sinking ship. Great move to protect their 2024 aspirations.

what are the odds on Melania doing the same in next 12 months.
 
it's great stuff. How's running of our greatest forum in the land going?
Easy work. Everybody is toeing the line so no need to put them in cages. Yet.
 
<laugh> All good fella.

Lot of bluster n guff around at the moment. And I ain't talkin' bout the weather.

yeah man, what a mental year this has been, insane.

Tbh it makes me angry looking from in from the outside so I can only imagine what it's like for ye all atm.

the more it goes on the more it looks like wanton destruction of the country by bungling morons.



It's like the Brexit thing has broken the system (not the result, the conflict over it). It lead to giving the Tories complete and utter control whereas a more split vote would have left some effective opposition that is needed for a well, healthier system with more checks on power.

This is the problem with one issue dominating who people vote for.

Mind you, Labour becoming the party of wealthy middle class types also fed into this, with the working class left feeling it had been abandoned by everyone, and voting in a lashing out fashion, which is what they did imo


Good luck bro, hopefully you guys can have some semblance of a normal Christmas.
 
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yeah sure, Michigan closes the polling station and finds 130k Votes for Biden and 0 for Trump at 5 am when no ones around.


The fact you don't think that suspicious,,,

Verified cases of dead people voting and we have people being interviewed by the media who say they were told they already voted (their mail in ballots were stolen, so they went to vote on the day and told they had already voted, people who say this and lie, can be easily caught in the lie if its a lie)

and its already a voting system that has massive weaknesses.



If Trump just pulled votes out of the bag like that in Gop run states I'd call foul just as quickly. So I will call foul on this happening in democrat runs states all the same




Here's the thing
I am 100% that if it was flipped and Trump was the one getting votes in the middle of the night to close gaps, you would imo 100% be claiming he's stealing the election.

Why do people let this partisan **** make them completely drop their objectivity I dont know.

Only it never happened ... you are letting your partisanship override your objectivity .. the Detroit Free Press has completely debunked it ... and provided actual graphs ... need proof? ... well the Wiggy Satsuma soon deleted his tweet about it when he realised it was a myth that he had desperately latched onto ... those 138k votes had been counted but not included in a particular graph due to an IT glitch ... they did not "just appear magically" <doh> ... now please try and look at things objectively as your partisanship is making you look a bit silly ... <laugh>
 
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You keep mentioning this yet it was corrected days ago and WIDELY reported!


It was brought up by people, not "widely reported" by the corporate media first, because you'd have links from CNN NYT WAPO MSNBC and a host of other outlets saying "this is odd, must be checked into", I bet there are only later on liberal media articles shooting it down, without even asking for it to be checked out.

My bet is you can only find some conservative links saying that, and published "after" people themselves discovered it


I was watching the bookies odds on bovada bookies, I didnt sleep that night, and the odds suddenly went from -Trump to -Biden in a flash, that is extremely weird
I checked FiveThirtyEight and yes, Biden 130k votes Trump 0, after the polling station was closed for the night and counting stopped, these ballots magically appeared.

The legal **** show has started and could run into December

So why not check what's going on and have transparency, because if the votes are legit, Biden and Dems have zero to worry about surely?
 
It was brought up by people, not "widely reported" by the corporate media first, because you'd have links from CNN NYT WAPO MSNBC and a host of other outlets saying "this is odd, must be checked into", I bet there are only later on liberal media articles shooting it down, without even asking for it to be checked out.

My bet is you can only find some conservative links saying that, and published "after" people themselves discovered it


I was watching the bookies odds on bovada bookies, I didnt sleep that night, and the odds suddenly went from -Trump to -Biden in a flash, that is extremely weird
I checked FiveThirtyEight and yes, Biden 130k votes Trump 0, after the polling station was closed for the night and counting stopped, these ballots magically appeared.

The legal **** show has started and could run into December

So why not check what's going on and have transparency, because if the votes are legit, Biden and Dems have zero to worry about surely?
Ok.
 
yeah man, what a mental year this has been, insane.

Tbh it makes me angry looking from in from the outside so I can only imagine what it's like for ye all atm.

the more it goes on the more it looks like wanton destruction of the country by bungling morons.



It's like the Brexit thing has broken the system (not the result, the conflict over it). It lead to giving the Tories complete and utter control whereas a more split vote would have left some effective opposition that is needed for a well, healthier system with more checks on power.

This is the problem with one issue dominating who people vote for.

Mind you, Labour becoming the party of wealthy middle class types also fed into this, with the working class left feeling it had been abandoned by everyone, and voting in a lashing out fashion, which is what they did imo


Good luck bro, hopefully you guys can have some semblance of a normal Christmas.

Brexit was a gamble by the Tories that didn't pay off. Cameron threw it in there to try and stop some of his MP's defecting to UKIP and then thought he'd lose the election or have to trade it off in another coalition with the Lib Dems and never actually have to put in on the table. It was only ever a handful of Tory knob jockeys who wanted a referendum anyway. But once it gathered momentum and the likes of Farage whipped up the 'take are ****ry back!' crew, it just turned to poison.

The current bunch of Tories are ****ing useless. The only reason that cabinet exists in it's current guise is because they are all Brexiteers. None of them have been picked for their skills in the relevant depts. Look at the state of Hancock, Patel, Jenrick etc and all led by Boris, a bumbling buffoon who had lied his way through his career and thrown in a few latin words and crass jokes.

Since then, politics has been more divisive than I've ever known, with actual facts just tossed aside in favour of emotions and assumptions. Social media hasn't helped, with some folk literally binning off rigorous journalism in favour of bat **** conspiracy websites and proclaiming that they are 'woke'

That said, whilst I take a keen interest in it all. I can also let it fly over my head. I live a lifestyle that doesn't require big finance, reliance on the 'the man' to provide for me or my family, and I'm lucky enough to be living in a remote area that is largely unaffected by Covid.
 
Biden to claim Georgia.
On hearing the news Trump was upset that his mate Epstein couldn’t help him grab her first.
 
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Brexit was a gamble by the Tories that didn't pay off. Cameron threw it in there to try and stop some of his MP's defecting to UKIP and then thought he'd lose the election or have to trade it off in another coalition with the Lib Dems and never actually have to put in on the table. It was only ever a handful of Tory knob jockeys who wanted a referendum anyway. But once it gathered momentum and the likes of Farage whipped up the 'take are ****ry back!' crew, it just turned to poison.

The current bunch of Tories are ****ing useless. The only reason that cabinet exists in it's current guise is because they are all Brexiteers. None of them have been picked for their skills in the relevant depts. Look at the state of Hancock, Patel, Jenrick etc and all led by Boris, a bumbling buffoon who had lied his way through his career and thrown in a few latin words and crass jokes.

Since then, politics has been more divisive than I've ever known, with actual facts just tossed aside in favour of emotions and assumptions. Social media hasn't helped, with some folk literally binning off rigorous journalism in favour of bat **** conspiracy websites and proclaiming that they are 'woke'

That said, whilst I take a keen interest in it all. I can also let it fly over my head. I live a lifestyle that doesn't require big finance, reliance on the 'the man' to provide for me or my family, and I'm lucky enough to be living in a remote area that is largely unaffected by Covid.

Well said Le Pisk,

All the anger also made many who didn't give a **** about politics jump in all red faced over issues driven by the media

The media is the root of it mate, that's where almost everyone gets their info.

If you look at the media landscape too, they are also polarised, and attack each other, LBC **** on BBC journos and vice versa, they block each other on social media and have spats now. Matlis is so ****in divisive and anger stoking, it is NOT good for the country to have someone like that reporting the news, nor the largely goading style of the Daily mail
Social media has made it worse, but most people dont use that, they watch BBC or read the Telegraph, or times or mail or what ever

The people giving us our information to make decisions have split along political or cultural lines, and that is a recipe for disaster
The US right now, is a warning for everyone about where the media driven division can go.

Right now tho only Sky News is akin to the US corporate media model, imagine 4 sky news but 2 v 2 rather than just giving the news

as the great philosopher Denzel Washington said "if you watch the media, you are misinformed, if you don't you are uninformed" <laugh>
 
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