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At the moment the Brexit MEP's are sat together with the MEPs from the Five Star Movement with one there from the AfD - called the 'Europe of freedom and direct democracy' Party - altogether they have 42 MEPs, out of a total of over 700. The French Front National sit together with Lega Nord in a completely different block (Europe of Nations and Freedom) so obviously there are big disagreements between them - like the rats are falling out. Maybe Marine le Pen is too left wing for Farage. Altogether they are about as insignificant as you would say the Greens are in the UK.
They are predicting up to 200 eurosceptic MEPs, a far cry from the pathetic showing for the Greens in the UK parliament of one sole MP.

An effective eurosceptic group will emerge next week.
 
They are predicting up to 200 eurosceptic MEPs, a far cry from the pathetic showing for the Greens in the UK parliament of one sole MP.

An effective eurosceptic group will emerge next week.
The Brexit Party is on line to pick up about the same numbers of MPs that Ukip got the last time around. Keeping in mind that Marine le Pen has no inclination whatsoever of sitting together with Farage, where is this supposed 200 going to come from ? You might also consider that we are talking about Brussels here and not Westminster - the Greens-European Free Alliance currently has 51 MEPs and with the German Greens hitting record heights in the opinion polls here, this will increase significantly. Why don't you actually be honest about your politics and the company you keep ? You rub your hands with glee every time there is a significant increase in support for neo Nazis, which can only lead us to one conclusion.
 
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Leadsome has resigned. Good. Perhaps she will now find time to answer my e-mails. Maybe not as she fancies herself to take over from May. What a shambolic bunch of MPs this government has. I wonder who will be next?
 
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Leadsome has resigned. Good. Perhaps she will now find time to answer my e-mails. Maybe not as she fancies herself to take over from May. What a shambolic bunch of MPs this government has. I wonder who will be next?
The Tories are awash with competent experienced candidates for the new PM role. I will enjoy choosing the next Brexiteer as your new leader.
 
The Tories are awash with competent experienced candidates for the new PM role. I will enjoy choosing the next Brexiteer as your new leader.
Perhaps you might like to suggest a candidate who has actually achieved anything of substance during their time as a minister ?
 
Did our civil service mandarins secretly decide that ex pats were insufficiently knowledgeable about European politics to be given a vote? Many EU citizens also suffered the same fate of not being allowed to vote.
 
Did our civil service mandarins secretly decide that ex pats were insufficiently knowledgeable about European politics to be given a vote? Many EU citizens also suffered the same fate of not being allowed to vote.

No it shows that this government cannot even conduct a democratic election in a proper manner. The UN will appoint observers from a proper country such as Somalia for the next time people go to the polls.
 
Did our civil service mandarins secretly decide that ex pats were insufficiently knowledgeable about European politics to be given a vote? Many EU citizens also suffered the same fate of not being allowed to vote.
I take it you are referring to the 3 million or so EU. citizens living in the UK. All of these people have the right to vote in European elections, and should be assisted in carrying out that right. It is quite clear that your version of democracy includes reducing the numbers and catagories of people able to vote until you get the desired result - maybe you should live in Erdogan's Turkey, you would love it there. However - any systematic attempt to hinder the voting rights of these people will lead to the British results being declared null and void. The European elections must be held according to the rules of the EU. and must have standard processes in all countries taking part.
 
No it shows that this government cannot even conduct a democratic election in a proper manner. The UN will appoint observers from a proper country such as Somalia for the next time people go to the polls.

Probably a Brexiteer mole stopping these people wasting a vote on the LibDems :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
So it is slowly coming out about the thousands of people who have been denied their opportunity to vote. Councils are saying that they were not allowed to send out papers before the 7th May, and the government left it too late for them to obtain printers to do the work that was needed. People are reporting that they received their voting papers today, so have effectively been denied a vote. Within the UK there has been a chaotic situation of poll officials not clear who can and cannot vote. There have been plenty of people suggesting this is some sort of conspiracy by the government, but I really don't think they are competent enough to organise such a thing. With this lot things just drift along until someone pulls them up. I suspect that Grayling must be involved somewhere in this latest shambles. Has anyone suggested him for PM yet?
 
So it is slowly coming out about the thousands of people who have been denied their opportunity to vote. Councils are saying that they were not allowed to send out papers before the 7th May, and the government left it too late for them to obtain printers to do the work that was needed. People are reporting that they received their voting papers today, so have effectively been denied a vote. Within the UK there has been a chaotic situation of poll officials not clear who can and cannot vote. There have been plenty of people suggesting this is some sort of conspiracy by the government, but I really don't think they are competent enough to organise such a thing. With this lot things just drift along until someone pulls them up. I suspect that Grayling must be involved somewhere in this latest shambles. Has anyone suggested him for PM yet?

Yes you.
Those opportunists planning to join the Conservative party hoping to influence the vote to choose our next PM are too late. Only those that have been members for at least 3 months are eligible to vote. Have no fear I will choose a staunch Brexiteer for you guys in the clique.
 
Yes you.
Those opportunists planning to join the Conservative party hoping to influence the vote to choose our next PM are too late. Only those that have been members for at least 3 months are eligible to vote. Have no fear I will choose a staunch Brexiteer for you guys in the clique.

Do you have nothing to say about the illegal processes that your government introduced to prevent EU nationals living in the UK from voting?
 
Do you have nothing to say about the illegal processes that your government introduced to prevent EU nationals living in the UK from voting?
There are multiple breaches of EU. treaties here Frenchie which state catagorically that EU citizens living in other EU countires have the right to vote in these elections under exactly the same conditions as the native population. Contravention of these treaties could well see the British votes regarded as null and void, and Britain being asked to vote again. Just one humiliation after the other for this country I'm afraid.
 
There are multiple breaches of EU. treaties here Frenchie which state catagorically that EU citizens living in other EU countires have the right to vote in these elections under exactly the same conditions as the native population. Contravention of these treaties could well see the British votes regarded as null and void, and Britain being asked to vote again. Just one humiliation after the other for this country I'm afraid.
That would give the Brexit Party much longer to prepare for an election, they could end up with an even larger landslide.
 
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