Off Topic UK / EU Future

[oldfrenchhorn]

Yes, you have said this before. You want to support her but then you don't. This is is why the party is falling apart. You know as well as I do that the EU has agreed a deal with her, which she accepted. They have also said that they have moved out of their comfort zone by compromising on the Customs Union to try and keep the the DUP on board and accommodate her red lines. But enough is enough, and I doubt that despite her pleading they will give much more. Why should they? It is not them who wish to leave a successful organisation that knows how to co-operate with each other. We will build our own planes when Bombardier leaves says one Tory MP, but planes are built by international companies these days as pointed out by people who know what they are talking about. It is buffoons like this who make most sensible people wonder how they ever got elected.

 

[oldfrenchhorn]

Thank Christ for people like Sir James Dyson paying all that tax and employing thousands of people in the UK.

Strange that after he received government money he took off so that he will pay tax elsewhere than the UK.

 

[superhorns]

Yes, you have said this before. You want to support her but then you don't. This is is why the party is falling apart. You know as well as I do that the EU has agreed a deal with her, which she accepted. They have also said that they have moved out of their comfort zone by compromising on the Customs Union to try and keep the the DUP on board and accommodate her red lines. But enough is enough, and I doubt that despite her pleading they will give much more. Why should they? It is not them who wish to leave a successful organisation that knows how to co-operate with each other. We will build our own planes when Bombardier leaves says one Tory MP, but planes are built by international companies these days as pointed out by people who know what they are talking about. It is buffoons like this who make most sensible people wonder how they ever got elected.

The Tories are elected because the public think they are the best option. The public rejects Labour, and the Lib Dems, time and time again.

If the EU do not wish to negotiate sensibly then the UK leaves without a deal. A no deal will push the eurozone into a much deeper recession than the one forecast, especially when Trump loads the tariffs on EU cars next month. The current dogfights between EU member state leaders will only intensify, blaming each other for a lack of a deal.

I'm off to Madeira in a few days, to find the next Ronaldo for the hornets and negotiate the backstop with the locals.

 

[superhorns]

Strange that after he received government money he took off so that he will pay tax elsewhere than the UK.

It was reported from a close source that his relocation of head office was due to a fear of a Corbyn government. In that vastly event there would be a massive outflow of capital and talent.

 

[superhorns]

It was reported from a close source that his relocation of head office was due to a fear of a Corbyn government. In that vastly event there would be a massive outflow of capital and talent.

ghastly

 

[oldfrenchhorn]

It was reported from a close source that his relocation of head office was due to a fear of a Corbyn government. In that vastly event there would be a massive outflow of capital and talent.

There is already a massive outflow of capital if you read around.

Shouldn't you be out with the paint brush by now painting your skirting boards rather than leaving your building site rather than taking another short break.

 

[Deleted.......]

I was only trying to prevent you any further embarrassment. I will support the PM if, and when, she comes up with a sensible deal based on the referendum result and the subsequent clear red lines she previously set out. She made a mistake sidelining the Brexit Secretaries preferring to take advice from senior civil servants that turned out to be faulty. If she manages to get the unacceptable bits of the backstop removed and replaced with something else then she may obtain enough support for her plan.

I have never been a UKIP supporter but recognise that Farage has been the most influential politician in the UK for ages.

If you take notice of the thread title you will see it refers to UK/EU future. Within this it is relevant to discuss the obvious failings and current problems within the EU, an organisation that some democratic deniers wish us to be shackled to.

She has a sensible deal. This is as good as it will get. You need to drop the mask - you want a no deal because you will benefit from it financially. Cool - well done you.

 

[superhorns]

There is already a massive outflow of capital if you read around.

Shouldn't you be out with the paint brush by now painting your skirting boards rather than leaving your building site rather than taking another short break.

I did think about painting the inside myself but I'm glad I have employed a couple of professional decorators. It gives me the dubious opportunity to waste time on here pushing my blood pressure up. I'm still planning on doing the patios and landscaping myself but I am now dreading the thought of the large amount of work involved. I just want the house finished now.

 

[superhorns]

She has a sensible deal. This is as good as it will get. You need to drop the mask - you want a no deal because you will benefit from it financially. Cool - well done you.

Sorry, your comment about gaining financially is absolutely ridicules. I have no intention of currency trading. The whole Brexit process has cost me a fortune. I knew the potential financial implications beforehand but still voted for Brexit.

 

[rudebwoy]

Thank Christ for people like Sir James Dyson paying all that tax and employing thousands of people in the UK.

you don’t do irony do you ?
Like all those who are in positions to take advantage of the system they set up , he’s no different , his hoovers are crap overpriced tat , another snake oil salesman , govt is full of them , they all went to eton or rugby , sooner this outdated system collapses the better , brexit is a distraction from the fundamental inequality promoted by these creatures and promoted by willing cheerleaders like superhorns , who have benefitted financially from this situation.

 

[superhorns]

you don’t do irony do you ?
Like all those who are in positions to take advantage of the system they set up , he’s no different , his hoovers are crap overpriced tat , another snake oil salesman , govt is full of them , they all went to eton or rugby , sooner this outdated system collapses the better , brexit is a distraction from the fundamental inequality promoted by these creatures and promoted by willing cheerleaders like superhorns , who have benefitted financially from this situation.

Somebody got out of bed the wrong side this morning!!!!!

 

[superhorns]

you don’t do irony do you ?
Like all those who are in positions to take advantage of the system they set up , he’s no different , his hoovers are crap overpriced tat , another snake oil salesman , govt is full of them , they all went to eton or rugby , sooner this outdated system collapses the better , brexit is a distraction from the fundamental inequality promoted by these creatures and promoted by willing cheerleaders like superhorns , who have benefitted financially from this situation.

When all the wealth / job creators, investors and entrepreneurs have been encouraged to give up on the UK by the Marx Brothers taking charge of the UK economy their socialist experiment will end up with making the UK looking more like Venezuela.

 

[yorkshirehornet]

When all the wealth / job creators, investors and entrepreneurs have been encouraged to give up on the UK by the Marx Brothers taking charge of the UK economy their socialist experiment will end up with making the UK looking more like Venezuela.

When the entrepreneurs take their businesses out of the UK along with their profits and the legislators have vested interests in the profits of these entrepreneurs.. There you have the flaw in the machine

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[colognehornet]

When all the wealth / job creators, investors and entrepreneurs have been encouraged to give up on the UK by the Marx Brothers taking charge of the UK economy their socialist experiment will end up with making the UK looking more like Venezuela.

Surely rather than jetting off to Madeira (again ) you would be better off planning your vegetable plot for this year The British Retail Consortium have just sent a warning letter to the government - using the government's own estimates that freight through Calais may fall by up to 87%, warning that they cannot stockpile fresh food, and there will be soaring prices and a food shortage in the event of a hard Brexit. In March 90% of lettuces, 80% of Tomatoes and 70% of soft fruit sold in the UK. are grown in the EU. So get digging SH !!!!! You can always dismiss this as 'project fear' along with every other warning from 'experts', and trust more to believing the clowns who got us into this mess in the first place.
The problem is that you still believe that Britain is seen, internationally, as taking up a heroic stand against bullying and coercion - almost like a patriotic struggle for freedom. However the reality is that our image in the World has hit rock bottom, a quote I saw recently summed it up well - Brexit is seen abroad as an expression of nostalgia, introversion and a very unbecoming belligerence - almost like a collective 'chip on the shoulder'.

 

[superhorns]

Surely rather than jetting off to Madeira (again ) you would be better off planning your vegetable plot for this year The British Retail Consortium have just sent a warning letter to the government - using the government's own estimates that freight through Calais may fall by up to 87%, warning that they cannot stockpile fresh food, and there will be soaring prices and a food shortage in the event of a hard Brexit. In March 90% of lettuces, 80% of Tomatoes and 70% of soft fruit sold in the UK. are grown in the EU. So get digging SH !!!!! You can always dismiss this as 'project fear' along with every other warning from 'experts', and trust more to believing the clowns who got us into this mess in the first place.
The problem is that you still believe that Britain is seen, internationally, as taking up a heroic stand against bullying and coercion - almost like a patriotic struggle for freedom. However the reality is that our image in the World has hit rock bottom, a quote I saw recently summed it up well - Brexit is seen abroad as an expression of nostalgia, introversion and a very unbecoming belligerence - almost like a collective 'chip on the shoulder'.

Our first time to Madeira. I could do with eating much less for a while. Those European food supplies are in for a hard time by the sound of it, unemployment on the continent to soar even higher?

 

[oldfrenchhorn]

Tesco saying that 9,000 jobs to go as they restructure. One of the measures is to do away with the fresh food counters. Much easier to keep meat and vegetables in tins if your supplies are unreliable.

 

[oldfrenchhorn]

Today when there have been warnings about getting food supplies onto the supermarket shelves, the health secretary Matt Hancock told a Parliamentary committee that “medicines will be prioritised [over food] in the event of a no-deal Brexit". This is a farce when you have to prioritise medicine over food. Of course everyone who voted to leave was told it would come down to this choice.

 

[superhorns]

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[oldfrenchhorn]

A question for SH. Do you agree with the health secretary that medicine should have priority over food seeing as there is insufficient capacity to get both into the country at the same time? Note that this his assessment of the situation, and not mine. I assume that he has seen the figures and has received advice before making the statement. But assuming that he has been well briefed, has the government got its priorities right?

 

[superhorns]

A question for SH. Do you agree with the health secretary that medicine should have priority over food seeing as there is insufficient capacity to get both into the country at the same time? Note that this his assessment of the situation, and not mine. I assume that he has seen the figures and has received advice before making the statement. But assuming that he has been well briefed, has the government got its priorities right?

I'm afraid I'm scaling down on Brexit until after my holiday, I expect it all to be well and truly sorted while I'm away. The EU will cave in and the trade deals will be rolling in faster than I can say Funchal.

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