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Maybe you would like to give us a reasoned argument as to why this shell company should be awarded a contract of this size. Perhaps you know the answer as to how when the officials in the DoT have examined this company with a fine tooth comb, it appears that they are selling pizza or other takeaway goodies.

I obviously know nothing about this transaction except the released government assurance that no money will paid except on results. I'm sure the good people of Ramsgate would welcome the opportunity of jobs being created.
 
I obviously know nothing about this transaction except the released government assurance that no money will paid except on results. I'm sure the good people of Ramsgate would welcome the opportunity of jobs being created.

As you know nothing about it, can I suggest some reading up on why Ramsgate has not been used as a port, and also why the people of Ramsgate find the whole idea quite laughable.
 
As you know nothing about it, can I suggest some reading up on why Ramsgate has not been used as a port, and also why the people of Ramsgate find the whole idea quite laughable.

If no money is spent unless on a results basis then no harm is done. If it works it works if it does not then no government loss. This is simply another remoaner red herring (caught in Ramsgate)!!
 
If no money is spent unless on a results basis then no harm is done. If it works it works if it does not then no government loss. This is simply another remoaner red herring (caught in Ramsgate)!!

The contracts state that some of the money will be spent even if no ferry is ever found that can be used. Grayling says that the government would try to sell the space to transport companies that they have paid for if the state of emergency does not happen. Might be difficult to sell non-existent space. Looking at his record no one would be confident of him even delivering a pizza, let alone buying one. Still he will be bailed out by the companies within the EU who know how to run services.
 
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I know nothing of the detail of this contract but I am sure no government minister or civil servant would enter into such a contract which if it goes pear shaped could lead to his resignation and a considerable amount of egg on his face. I have read that the civil service have been planning for a no deal Brexit for the last two years.
 
I know nothing of the detail of this contract but I am sure no government minister or civil servant would enter into such a contract which if it goes pear shaped could lead to his resignation and a considerable amount of egg on his face. I have read that the civil service have been planning for a no deal Brexit for the last two years.

You've obviously not been following Grayling's career...
 
Can I request again that posters desist from inflammatory posting couched in so called reason. By implication the poster concerned is smearing posters on here who disagree with him.
It is also wearying to see the same old same old...
There have been posts around Xmas about respect.. Let's try and keep our posts out of the gutter too.. Cheers

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Can I request again that posters desist from inflammatory posting couched in so called reason. By implication the poster concerned is smearing posters on here who disagree with him.
It is also wearying to see the same old same old...
There have been posts around Xmas about respect.. Let's try and keep our posts out of the gutter too.. Cheers

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The only inflammatory post is this one - please desist.
 
In a long rambling e-mail from the DExEU which really is of junior school ability, cologne might find a couple of paragraphs of interest.

With regard to voting in future elections, the Government believes that taking part in our democracy is an essential part of being British, no matter how far you have travelled from the UK. The Government committed in its manifesto to deliver votes for life for the nearly five million Britons living overseas.

A detailed policy statement setting out how the Government envisaged implementing votes in UK Parliamentary Elections for life for British citizens overseas was published in October 2016. The Government was elected with a commitment to legislate for this and is supporting a Private Members’ Bill currently before Parliament that does so. This Bill is currently at the Report Stage in the House of Commons.
 
In a long rambling e-mail from the DExEU which really is of junior school ability, cologne might find a couple of paragraphs of interest.

With regard to voting in future elections, the Government believes that taking part in our democracy is an essential part of being British, no matter how far you have travelled from the UK. The Government committed in its manifesto to deliver votes for life for the nearly five million Britons living overseas.

A detailed policy statement setting out how the Government envisaged implementing votes in UK Parliamentary Elections for life for British citizens overseas was published in October 2016. The Government was elected with a commitment to legislate for this and is supporting a Private Members’ Bill currently before Parliament that does so. This Bill is currently at the Report Stage in the House of Commons.

Better vote Conservative next time to ensure the time limit for ex-pats is removed.
 
The Tory domination is set to continue for many many years, they really are the natural party of government. The Labour Party, the only real chance of opposition, continues to flounder in the polls. no sign of your prediction coming true yet.

Support for the Labour Party seems to be badly wilting, Tories now have a six point lead according to the latest YouGov poll.
 
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Support for the Labour Party seems to be badly wilting, Tories now have a six point lead according to the latest YouGov poll.
Probably because of Corbyn's intransigence over brexshit now we can see what a clusterf*ck of a mess it's going to be if we do leave.

Anyone selling a ferry?
 
According to the PM today, Brexit could be cancelled if MPs vote against her deal. Come on Jacob marshal your forces and do the best thing for the country.
 
According to the PM today, Brexit could be cancelled if MPs vote against her deal. Come on Jacob marshal your forces and do the best thing for the country.

The highly influential ERG, most Tory party members, most Labour and SNP MPs will vote against May's poor deal. You should not be fooled by her desperate threat of no Brexit.
 
The highly influential ERG, most Tory party members, most Labour and SNP MPs will vote against May's poor deal. You should not be fooled by her desperate threat of no Brexit.

So the PM that you pay to support is desperate. It is little wonder when you see that the YouGov poll you quoted shows the sharp divide between those who wish to remain in the EU has grown yet again, while support for leaving is withering away. Some really good comments can be found today showing that in a typical referendum a general feeling at the time, will be changed when the actual details are known. My Swiss friend who lives here confirms this, and states that you do not get what people think they are voting for. You are getting what you wanted, or are you? I am afraid that all that has happened is that the Tory party has split the country for years to come in an attempt to keep power for as long as possible. The Labour Party could turn things around for their ratings simply by opposing Brexit. All the data confirms this.
 
So the PM that you pay to support is desperate. It is little wonder when you see that the YouGov poll you quoted shows the sharp divide between those who wish to remain in the EU has grown yet again, while support for leaving is withering away. Some really good comments can be found today showing that in a typical referendum a general feeling at the time, will be changed when the actual details are known. My Swiss friend who lives here confirms this, and states that you do not get what people think they are voting for. You are getting what you wanted, or are you? I am afraid that all that has happened is that the Tory party has split the country for years to come in an attempt to keep power for as long as possible. The Labour Party could turn things around for their ratings simply by opposing Brexit. All the data confirms this.

Several members of Labour's shadow cabinet are saying completely different things, even the leaders are mixed up so no chance of Labour having a common policy. There is also no chance of May's deal getting through unless the backstop is ditched. You can also rule out the chance of another referendum, your Swiss friend will be rolled over. :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
Several members of Labour's shadow cabinet are saying completely different things, even the leaders are mixed up so no chance of Labour having a common policy. There is also no chance of May's deal getting through unless the backstop is ditched. You can also rule out the chance of another referendum, your Swiss friend will be rolled over. :emoticon-0105-wink:

Just how united is the Tory party. Certainly not the cabinet, certainly not the MPs. It would seem that it is only the small number of ageing party members who can agree on anything. As my son-in-law said while he was here, " I once would have supported the Tories, but never again. They are totally incompetent to run a whelk stall, and have only created chaos There is no one I can vote for anymore". This from the only member of my family who was conned into voting leave. It is sad to say that this opinion is coming across more and more, while people stuck in the past are frightened to death that if there were a second vote they would lose. Meanwhile cross party MPs are moving to prevent the government spending any money on a no-deal situation. Read back to the late 1980's and you will find similar chaos when the Tories were in power.
 
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