Off Topic UK / EU Future

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superhorns said:
I had a couple of Polish ‘brickies’ on-site for a very short period. A 5 year old child could have laid blocks better, they were useless. This is not to say they are all useless just the ones I unfortunately met a few months ago.

There is a system currently being operated in the UK for companies to justify employing non UK / EU staff. This will be simply extended to cover future EU applicants.
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It could be they weren't bricklayers but were in fact doctors in need of a language course.
 
superhorns said:
I had a couple of Polish ‘brickies’ on-site for a very short period. A 5 year old child could have laid blocks better, they were useless. This is not to say they are all useless just the ones I unfortunately met a few months ago.

There is a system currently being operated in the UK for companies to justify employing non UK / EU staff. This will be simply extended to cover future EU applicants.
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As usual Brexiteers do not do detail. A surgeon told me this year that his hospital offered positions to six desperately needed doctors from India. They were refused permission to bring them to England simply because the quota had been used up. Broad brush regulations that make no sense. No consideration of need, no consideration of patient care, just numbers.
 
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colognehornet said:
It could be they weren't bricklayers but were in fact doctors in need of a language course.
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I don’t even want brain surgeons building my house if they are incompetent at laying bricks / blocks. Applicants will hopefully be made to prove their competence well before they enter the UK.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
As usual Brexiteers do not do detail. A surgeon told me this year that his hospital offered positions to six desperately needed doctors from India. They were refused permission to bring them to England simply because the quota had been used up. Broad brush regulations that make no sense. No consideration of need, no consideration of patient care, just numbers.
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This can easily be adjusted for need especially after the recent vast injection of funds by the Tory government.
 
Suggestions tonight that the DUP are being removed from providing support for the government. This can only be because they have served their purpose and will no longer prop up this minority government. Could this lead to a GE?
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
Suggestions tonight that the DUP are being removed from providing support for the government. This can only be because they have served their purpose and will no longer prop up this minority government. Could this lead to a GE?
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The DUP are rightly standing up for their region of the UK. To annex off this region from the rest of the UK without a democratic vote is understandably unacceptable to politicians of all UK parties. I would think there are several options more likely than a GE.
 
superhorns said:
The DUP are rightly standing up for their region of the UK. To annex off this region from the rest of the UK without a democratic vote is understandably unacceptable to politicians of all UK parties. I would think there are several options more likely than a GE.
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Sounds as if you wish to see another referendum.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
No, you were more specific. You wanted the people of Northern Ireland to have a say on the proposals that are coming out. How do you propose for that to come about?
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The people of Northern Ireland are welcome to have a vote on their remaining part of the UK or joining the rest of Ireland. This should not be confused with Brexit as they have already been part of the UK wide democratic vote.
 
superhorns said:
The people of Northern Ireland are welcome to have a vote on their remaining part of the UK or joining the rest of Ireland. This should not be confused with Brexit as they have already been part of the UK wide democratic vote.
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You do not understand that for the people of NI to have a vote on joining the South, then those living in the South would also have to have a vote at the same time. Their government has said that they will not hold such a vote. So your notion is a non-starter. So back to your original post. How are the people of NI going to have their say that you stated was desirable?
 
The government has accepted the draft agreement. It is far from perfect she implied, but the best that was on offer. Takes one back to Cameron coming back with an imperfect deal. If Parliament doesn't accept it there could be no deal, or no leaving the EU. Maybe I should hope that the latter turns out to be the outcome.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
You do not understand that for the people of NI to have a vote on joining the South, then those living in the South would also have to have a vote at the same time. Their government has said that they will not hold such a vote. So your notion is a non-starter. So back to your original post. How are the people of NI going to have their say that you stated was desirable?
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It is up to the people of NI to decide its future not the UKs PM trying to solve a problem created by the EU. The people of NI will have their say via the politicians of the most popular political party in the region.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
The government has accepted the draft agreement. It is far from perfect she implied, but the best that was on offer. Takes one back to Cameron coming back with an imperfect deal. If Parliament doesn't accept it there could be no deal, or no leaving the EU. Maybe I should hope that the latter turns out to be the outcome.
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Your hopes have repeatedly been dashed during your much hyped legal challenges to Brexit, prepare to be disappointed once again.
 
There was no problem before the referendum so it has only come about since. It was the UK that called it not the EU in case you have forgotten.
 
superhorns said:
Your hopes have repeatedly been dashed during your much hyped legal challenges to Brexit, prepare to be disappointed once again.
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I have never been involved in a legal challenge, but it was shown that the government was acting illegally more than once. These judgements were handed down by UK courts, so nothing to do with the EU.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
I have never been involved in a legal challenge, but it was shown that the government was acting illegally more than once. These judgements were handed down by UK courts, so nothing to do with the EU.
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Several times you pinned your hopes on legal challenges trying to thwart Brexit, all failed miserably.
 
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