Off Topic Trumpy pumpy.

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PhheHdee said:
OK so show me his racism.

He's not a politician at all, except by the barest definition, "runs for public office". He was never a politician, you only have to listen to him speak to know he's not a politician, semantics as usual from you types

Then you can explain how he's made so much money in business, and became president when everyone tried to stop him, with such a low IQ? and at 70 years of age too.
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Where do you want to start re racism? There are so many examples that it is becoming too obvious. People can argue about individual specific examples but taken in totality they seem dissonant with a man who espouses fair and equal treatment for all.

If you and others can be bothered to read that long list

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

As for making so much money in business, he didn’t exactly start as a pauper did he? Apparently he was left the equivalent of what he is worth today (IRS issues around inheritance mentioned in the past )
 
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carlthejackal said:
Where do you want to start re racism? There are so many examples that it is becoming too obvious. People can argue about individual specific examples but taken in totality they seem dissonant with a man who espouses fair and equal treatment for all.

If you and others can be bothered to read that long list

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

As for making so much money in business, he didn’t exactly start as a pauper did he? Apparently he was left the equivalent of what he is worth today (IRS issues around inheritance mentioned in the past )
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Where is the racism? you gave me an opinion piece with no evidence of Trumps racism, you never read it did you.
hearsay is there, something one of his agencies did and assertions

Something about wanting the death penalty for convicted rapists (later over turned, 10 years later)

There's a tween claiming Obama plays golf too much and the NYT piece claims its racist <laugh>

can't be bothered = cant find it. You looked and only found that piece, you are a liar

You still have not given me any evidence Trump is racist. All you have given me a bullshit NYT opinion piece with hearsay and opinion.

If trump is so racist, you can easily actually find something racist "he" said, not "something someone said someone else said" <doh>

It's easy. If I say someone in the UK labour party is racist, like Dianne Abbott I can provide a direct quote of her racist words, she is and she did
 
PhheHdee said:
Where is the racism? you gave me an opinion piece with no evidence of Trumps racism, you never read it did you.
hearsay is there, something one of his agencies did and assertions

Something about wanting the death penalty for convicted rapists (later over turned, 10 years later)

There's a tween claiming Obama plays golf too much and the NYT piece claims its racist <laugh>

can't be bothered = cant find it.

You still have not given me any evidence Trump is racist. All you have given me a bullshit NYT opinion piece with hearsay and opinion.

If trump is so racist, you can easily actually find something racist "he" said, not "something someone said someone else said" <doh>
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I can’t be bothered to prove that his behaviour can be construed by fair minded people as racist. You’ll always want to believe what you want to believe.

He is the most non racist fair person in the US!

When I was in the USA recently I was astonished how his core supporters would not entertain any thing wrong or negative about him. All he needs to say is “it’s fake news” or “CNN are terrible people “ that they all lick his ***. Even when all the news channels were reporting them.
 
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carlthejackal said:
I can’t be bothered to prove that his behaviour can be construed by fair minded people as racist. You’ll always want to believe what you want to believe.

When I was in the USA recently I was astonished how his core supporters would not entertain any thing wrong or negative about him. All he needs to say is “it’s fake news” or “CNN are terrible people “ that they all lick his ***. Even when all the news channels were reporting them.
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You cant be bothered to back up your claims

Ok got it, cant argue with that. Happy friday <ok>

Strange how no one noticed his ardent racism until 2016
 
ah I get it, a life long Dem, friend of the Clintons.. never a mention of racism.. soon as he's on the other side

RACISSSSSHHHHHTTTTT <laugh>

had Killary won the presidency... Hillary (Black kids are superpredators) Clinton you'd have not opened your trap. Hillary, how many brown people did she kill in Libya and all the deaths there after? all the deaths in the med from migrant boats sinking? hmmmmm
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Liberals ARE mentally ill
 
PhheHdee said:
You cant be bothered to back up your claims

Ok got it, cant argue with that. Happy friday <ok>

Strange how no one noticed his ardent racism until 2016
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I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes.... Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else... Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that's guy's lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.

Not a racist <laugh>
 
Tobes said:
I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes.... Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else... Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that's guy's lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.

Not a racist <laugh>
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Source.
 
Tobes and his fantasies again, something someone else said someone else said someone else said.

That's pretty much the standard of evidence for ******s alright, and this "evidence" only appears after he runs for the oval office :D
 
Tobes said:
The one you’ve already been given, you one eyed ****wit.
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So no source. Usual fare from you. unsourced claims and unsupported assertions

I see, this is what the standard for claiming someone is a racist, a comment someone else said someone else said decades ago? On social media it is.

As I suspected, again, no evidence for claims of racism from either of you. One is "not bothered" to provide evidence and you are citing the NYT article that holds no evidence.

You suffer from a pathological condition Tobes
 
PhheHdee said:
So no source. Usual fare from you. unsourced claims and unsupported assertions

I see, this is what the standard for claiming someone is a racist, a comment someone else said someone else said decades ago? On social media it is.

As I suspected, again, no evidence for claims of racism from either of you. One is "not bothered" to provide evidence and you are citing the NYT article that holds no evidence.

You suffer from a pathological condition Tobes
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Your comprehension skills are that of a 6 year old. The source was provided earlier by @carlthejackal, the one you dismissed obviously without reading it properly, as it didn’t fit your alt right agenda. The quote is from a book called Trumped, that the man himself said was ‘probably true’ 6 years after its publication.

To try and make out that a man who has dehumanised migrants and Mexicans in the way he has, using words that were straight from the Goebbels playbook, is somehow not a racist, is beyond laughable. You’re an absolute joke man.
 
look we all know trumps not a racist cos he'll grab any colour of girls pussy.

but he has only married white foreign girls with funny accents what's all that about?
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
look we all know trumps not a racist cos he'll grab any colour of girls pussy.

but he has only married white foreign girls with funny accents what's all that about?
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As long the funny accents don’t come from someone from Mexico or other Latin countries, people he considers as vermin, rapists or murderers. Or black people who he says have a lazy trait.

Only a core Trump supporter would view him as non racist.
PhheHdee said:
Where is the racism? you gave me an opinion piece with no evidence of Trumps racism, you never read it did you.
hearsay is there, something one of his agencies did and assertions

Something about wanting the death penalty for convicted rapists (later over turned, 10 years later)

There's a tween claiming Obama plays golf too much and the NYT piece claims its racist <laugh>

can't be bothered = cant find it. You looked and only found that piece, you are a liar

You still have not given me any evidence Trump is racist. All you have given me a bullshit NYT opinion piece with hearsay and opinion.

If trump is so racist, you can easily actually find something racist "he" said, not "something someone said someone else said" <doh>

It's easy. If I say someone in the UK labour party is racist, like Dianne Abbott I can provide a direct quote of her racist words, she is and she did
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Hearsay and opinion <laugh> <laugh>

The list is of things that he ACTUALLY said and not even disputed by him. Now how you view these things will depend on 2 things: 1) you are so up his a**** that you do not believe he said these things Or 2) you actually believe that he did say these things but they are not racist because they are your views too. Like most of his core support.

Either way it shows your true colours. <laugh>
 
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So..... g20 summit.

Trumps favourites the Saudis copying up to the Russians.

Hilarious antics really. That'll rightly wind up the us press
 
So where does fantasy begin and reality end with brexit vote.

Tusk is saying you've got what you've got so it's after for leave with no deal.

Labour seem convinced they can reject this 11th December vote with no consequences as Tories and dup are to blame anyway, then try for general election or even failing that some 2nd referendum.

My understanding isthere are 3 options now. Agree deal and leave, leave with no deal or finally all agree to extend negotiation period.

When it seems not if this vote on the 11th is rejected the government must issue a statement of it's intent within 21 days. That's new years day.

The parliament can then vote on that again.

The reality is the default is we are out with no deal.

If you add in Christmas here.... when this fails on the 11th thry then have only a very short time to force anything.

There no actual time for an election?

This is why I feel there's quite a bit of fiddling while Rome burns happening.

The time for all of this was 6 months ago.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
So where does fantasy begin and reality end with brexit vote.

Tusk is saying you've got what you've got so it's after for leave with no deal.

Labour seem convinced they can reject this 11th December vote with no consequences as Tories and dup are to blame anyway, then try for general election or even failing that some 2nd referendum.

My understanding isthere are 3 options now. Agree deal and leave, leave with no deal or finally all agree to extend negotiation period.

When it seems not if this vote on the 11th is rejected the government must issue a statement of it's intent within 21 days. That's new years day.

The parliament can then vote on that again.

The reality is the default is we are out with no deal.

If you add in Christmas here.... when this fails on the 11th thry then have only a very short time to force anything.

There no actual time for an election?

This is why I feel there's quite a bit of fiddling while Rome burns happening.

The time for all of this was 6 months ago.
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The first vote will be voted down. The markets and the £ will crash and she’ll ask them to have another go. Irony or what.
 
Tobes said:
The first vote will be voted down. The markets and the £ will crash and she’ll ask them to have another go. Irony or what.
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It seems to me the self advancement is far more important than brexit itself.

The last election and 6 months ago was the time to shunt may out. The Brexiteer ****e in the Tory party wouldn't do it. Labour sat back and did nothing but now think they can change the outcome.

I can't see a way to change anything at all bar the extension of a year on the exit program already offered by eu and rejected by may.

The 11th who knows whats going to happen... they are all fairly confident there's going to be another vote anyway. It seems the1st gote isfor posturing.
 
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