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  1. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    Free movement?

    lol

    You need permission of every state you want to move to, you cant just show up and unpack your bags.

    I had to get permission from the Finnish state to move to Finland. What are you smoking? <laugh>

    There is free movement of information, lots of people seem to have that misconception

    For example if you got a degree outside of the EU, it's not worth much compared to one you obtained inside of the EU.
    background checks and security checks are easier within the EU, I had to get security cleared for working with State entities here, but say an Indian, he cannot be background checked and so cant work on those systems.

    if you have other qualifications say, in medicine, depending on where you got them, depends on how valid they are deemed.

    One of the lads that we work with works on the EU legislation for the IT systems side, personal information to be specific.
    He tells me himself how the EU commission is literally untouchable.
     
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    The argument about firms and employment is not new. We’ve had it for tobacco for example. If we impose control on tobacco, there will closure of factories and companies and people will lose jobs. If this argument had held sway and we’ve not acted to reduce smoking, yes we would have kept some jobs but what about the hundreds of thousands who would have otherwise died of lung cancer?

    Sometimes you just have to do what’s right. Jobs in these companies can be replaced by others in other industries. An increase in the age limit and more checks is a small but really important step. The gun lobby knows that and that’s why they will be fighting tooth and nail against that. They fear it could be hole in the dam that leads to the dam bursting through and water flowing freely through. Increase the age to 21, put more checks, limit sale points through restricted licensing, ban guns for people who have committed offences such as burglary, etc. This is how the war against the extremely powerful tobacco lobby was fought.

    The NRA is viewed as all powerful because it has huge lobbying power with the politicians of both parties. If fewer politicians are under its control they can pass laws which may lead to gun restrictions and there is nothing that the NRA can do if that’s what most people want. The identification of politicians under NRA’s thumb is right.
     
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  3. Angry_Physics

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    Ireland is the tech capital of Europe, not because of EU movement, but because of the tax dealings, that brought those US companies to Ireland, and those companies are massive in Europe, like Google Apple and Facebook for example.

    It had nothing to do with free movement :D

    I wonder how silicon valley survives without free movement <whistle>
     
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    The number of Indian engineers contracting in Europe completely debunks that claim RHC.

    You have companies like MineTree who have a ****load of engineers and managers and they rotate them every 6 months due to VISA restrictions when needed locally, then they work remotely.

    Millions of engineers never set foot inside an office in Europe, but work in European IT. India produces nearly a million engineers a year <yikes>
     
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  5. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I've not spoken to ONE scientist who welcomes Brexit, be they a foreign or British mational.
     
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    Of course, scientists are generally lefties and a LOT of academic funding comes from the EU and then EU projects and so on.
    It's good for scientists. Yet scientific cooperation happens regardless of borders, take the ISS space station, it would be dead in the water without Russian rockets

    But it's not good for even more average joes <ok>

    I benefited from the system, so I could be biased. But I see what is happening Europe and where it is headed. The bad is starting to outweigh the good imo
     
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    Case in point, how many scientists live in the ghettos created from recent mass immigration? not ****ing many <laugh> They also have deeper pockets and EU austerity is not an issue for them
     
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    As for Brexit, I don't know the outcome of that, no idea what will happen, I can only speak for myself and own opinions on the EU. Historically such massive centralised bureaucratic entities have been a disaster, in all cases and of course, they have all been some sort of socialist or marxist entities, which is largely what the EU is.

    I like socialist policies and am happy to pay for them, I do here in Finland, but ideological marxist governments are always ****ing disasters

    1300 euros taken out of my pay this month. Ouch
     
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    man this cold makes by phone battery run down 4 times faster, bastard...
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    id hardly go that far.

    ireland is the place they shuffle tax through. nothing more.

    once brexit occurs i reckon all those who had a short hop to london to be in a real.european capital will be looking at the 3 hour flights and thinking hmmm....

    ireland will be screwed post brexit..totally isolated out there on the edge. the markets are in the big centres of populations.

    capital... hmmm.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I hear the RAF are being brought out to help, due to the snow and cold.
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Where do we even start with this one.

    1. Sweeping generalisation?

    2. The more intelligen the person the more likely to be socialist in outlook?

    3. Confusing nationalistic vanity projects such as iss with actual collaboration on science.

    I mean.... the European union is an experiment going much further by treaty (agreed every time by UK governments) than the original eec. Free movement of people and goods.

    What is the United States... exactly the same free movement, but in a political structure developed over much longer period.
    People flow from ****ter states into more affluent there too but spaces are vast even in the older states.

    Europe is characterised by failed states from behind the iron curtain requiring huge development and social growth combined with older states such as France UK and Germany who look down their noses at the immigrants.

    The simple fact is blaming the individual who moves for a better life is stupid. A longer term view is required where those states who were allowed in should have been brought in as satellite members and developed over 25/30 years to become more mature developed economies so that movement is for cultural expolo4ration, study or business..... not get out of my hovel in Latvia and working cleaning the toilets in the UK and be racially abused by a jumped up Brexiteer.

    Oh and don't dare tell me that doesn't happen cos I'm an eye witness to it..sadly.
     
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    The fallacy of the AR15 ban
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    Remington 7400 (top) and the DSA SA-5 (bottom)

    They are semi-automatic in operation.

    They fire the .308 Winchester cartridge.

    They are fed from a detachable box magazine.

    They are both "black" rifles.

    Both have pistol grips.

    Both have same fire rate, which is how fast you pull the trigger, but one looks like it can do more harm
    I don't think most even realise it is the round that matters not the rifle. .308 Winchester cartridge

    The AR15 has a few equivalents in hunting rifles, same round and fire rate, and use detachable magazines.
    As such the AR15 is pretty much the same as a semi auto hunting rifle, and not at all like an "assault rifle" as they are often completely incorrectly called.

    So my question is, what stops someone getting a Remington 7400 and doing the exact same thing in a school?
    This makes the ban on the AR15 (alone) pointless and nothing but window dressing.

    CNN have been telling everyone it is the weapon that causes the damage, that is bollocks, anyone who knows guns will tell you for a fact it is the round that does the damage, decides the velocity penetration and damage to a target, not the rifle.

    The debate should have been about all rifles with this capability not just the AR15, that was ******ed in the extreme
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    check out the barrel construct on each and come back to me.



    but in the mean time. if i were looking to do maximum damage id not be using either.

    id use a pump action shot gun with a nice spread pattern. but then im not a deluded obsessive reading about ar15s that then goes and carries out a school shooting... these kids.are fixated on the rifle
     
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  18. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    You are a laughable clown, seemed determined to challenge everything I say with weak arguments and when you are proven wrong you just keep talking to cover for it.


    You know nothing about it "scientist" leanings and gob off without even doing cursory research. Again with your pathological altruism. You definitely display some pathology mate.


    Though I am sure the alert I just got has another of your ******ed replies that was posted in reply so quickly there was sure to be 0 thought behind it.

    1. Sweeping generalisation?
    Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/10/only-six-percent-of-scien_n_229382.html
    Why are so many social scientists left-liberal?
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/why-are-so-many-social-scientists-left-liberal-1.2082755
    Eight in ten British university lecturers are 'Left-wing', survey finds
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educati...-university-lecturers-left-wing-survey-finds/

    2. The more intelligen the person the more likely to be socialist in outlook?
    See above, no one said "socialist" you moron, lefty != socialist. You are also too dumb to tell the difference between highly intelligent and highly educated. They are not the same.

    3. Confusing nationalistic vanity projects such as iss with actual collaboration on science.
    What does this ******ed comment even mean? I said international cooperation happens without supra national entities.


    "Europe is characterised by failed states from behind the iron curtain requiring huge development and social growth combined with older states such as France UK and Germany who look down their noses at the immigrants."

    You dumb ****, what was it you said about "sweeping generalisations"? More pathological altriusm, no facts nothing.

    Your post is factless, pointless horseshit, and you are too ****ing stupid and pathologically altruistic to even discuss something honestly.

    You're a moron mate, claiming millions of people are racist based purely on what delusions are in your head. <laugh>
     
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    Again a ******ed comment, didn't even read my post, just wanted to disagree right off the bat, you cabbage

    You know nothing about guns you ****** <laugh> I suggest you try actually looking stuff up instead of instantly gobbing off.
    Blaming the rifle's look? someone planning a mass murder will not do it if they cant find the right look of rifle? <doh>
    Another of these ******ed replies = ignore
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    don't be rude.
     
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