Treve needs Soft ground.

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Benvenuto Cellini

Benvenuto Cellini

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Can we put that to bed now please?

2.26 - Ground was faster than trials day.

I might have been convinced that she wasnt the same horse, I might still have doubts that she is despite her win, but never once did I entertain the opinion that she was a mudlark who needed soft ground, it was an absurd insinuation after her devastating Prix De Diane performance last season. Ground would never have beaten this filly in the Arc last season, an impossibility.

She proved last year wasnt a fluke one off performance, to those who thought it might be and maybe never seen the Diane, and she proved that she doesnt need soft at all. Who knows what went on this season, mentally, physically, but she wasnt beaten because she needed soft ground, they told you going into Ascot they werent concerned about the ground.

So she goes out as one of the great fillies of all time, history, I said she was the best since Zarkava and while Zark is still the undisputed queen for me, if another filly comes along in the next ten years, "the best since Treve" is what I will be proclaiming.
 
No one has ever said she needed it soft Joe and why you go to extreme of "mudlark" I don't know; I'm really surprised you have said that. She is undoubtedly more at home with some cut in the ground but don't let's go to extremes. She is uncomfortable on firm ground and the times she has run on it she has been off recovering for some while. The fact that she can run so well on firm ground is testament to her ability and courage. I said before the race if the going didn't have soft in the description it would be her last race. I'm sure that decision to retire her was made before the race because they knew she could win it and could have all the time in the World to recover. I think everything that needs to be said about Treve (and a lot that didn't) has been said.

I have no doubt that had she been 100% on Sunday, and had there been a bit of give in the ground, it would have been an even bigger demolition job.
 
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