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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Nope - that's too boring. <ok>

And yes, I can judge players already because I've seen them play. Same I did with Lallana and Lovren when everyone was creaming over them because they looked good at Soton. <ok>

You're right in that I didn't write Mario off - why? Because the manager didn't play to his strengths - you expect Rodgers to play to Benteke and he may succeed. But we didn't do the same for Mario but yet you and most others wrote him off. It's sheer hypocrisy when some fans tell me I'm too negative and write off players like Milner etc but they do exactly the same with the likes of Mario, Sakho, Moreno etc.
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Its easier to judge a player once they've played for us than one who never has as they are trained differently and in different set up.

Benteke might flop flop absokutely but to completely wrote him off as you have done is stupid as you don't know how he's going to adapt. If you, I or anyone else here knew then we wouldn't be typing on here, we'd be managing football clubs.

My opinion is no more right than yours, but what is right is that you can't judge a player and wrote him off before he's kicked a ball.

Everyone thought Torres would score at Chelsea, that veron would succeed at United but they didn't. Some players just don't perform at certain clubs but until given the chance, no one knows for sure.
 
Gerrez said:
Probably a case of we've agreed to pay the release clause but we want to negotiate how it's paid. Not often a fee is paid 100% upfront
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True, but the contract probably States release clause is 32m straight up so if villa play hardball then we have no option.

And bs when I say straight up, I mean guaranteed 32m not 25m with 7m in add insult etc. the 32m will be paid over course of initial contract even if it is a release clause
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Its easier to judge a player once they've played for us than one who never has as they are trained differently and in different set up.

Benteke might flop flop absokutely but to completely wrote him off as you have done is stupid as you don't know how he's going to adapt. If you, I or anyone else here knew then we wouldn't be typing on here, we'd be managing football clubs.

My opinion is no more right than yours, but what is right is that you can't judge a player and wrote him off before he's kicked a ball.

Everyone thought Torres would score at Chelsea, that veron would succeed at United but they didn't. Some players just don't perform at certain clubs but until given the chance, no one knows for sure.
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Why didn't Torres score at Chelsea? Again, the system didn't suit him. They acted like he was Drogba and kept hte same system.

Which is why when some fans think that because Benteke scored a few goals at Villa and it's transferable to LFC.

But you're right - he may or may not succeed. None of us know. Every signing is a risk - but it's about mitigating that risk as much as possible. Signing a player with an average record at a midtable club isn't mitigating that risk.
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Nope - that's too boring. <ok>

And yes, I can judge players already because I've seen them play. Same I did with Lallana and Lovren when everyone was creaming over them because they looked good at Soton. <ok>

You're right in that I didn't write Mario off - why? Because the manager didn't play to his strengths - you expect Rodgers to play to Benteke and he may succeed. But we didn't do the same for Mario but yet you and most others wrote him off. It's sheer hypocrisy when some fans tell me I'm too negative and write off players like Milner etc but they do exactly the same with the likes of Mario, Sakho, Moreno etc.

P.S I've been waiting to clock for about 3 hours now. I need to drum up some entertainment to get me through this! No hard feelings. <ok>
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But the manager never played to Lallana's strengths and gave Lovren no help in defence!
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Why didn't Torres score at Chelsea? Again, the system didn't suit him. They acted like he was Drogba and kept hte same system.

Which is why when some fans think that because Benteke scored a few goals at Villa and it's transferable to LFC.

But you're right - he may or may not succeed. None of us know. Every signing is a risk - but it's about mitigating that risk as much as possible. Signing a player with an average record at a midtable club isn't mitigating that risk.
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Because he was shot, his speed gone. Now he has gone back to the team that taught him he is no better.
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
True, but the contract probably States release clause is 32m straight up so if villa play hardball then we have no option.

And bs when I say straight up, I mean guaranteed 32m not 25m with 7m in add insult etc. the 32m will be paid over course of initial contract even if it is a release clause
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It won't be add ons, it'll just be payment structure
 
Diego said:
Is that like "give us what you have left from the Sterling sale once the loyalty bonus etc are paid then make the rest up when you manage to sell some3one else"?
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Yeah I'm sure they're arguing to only be paid at some unspecified future date <ok>
 
Diego said:
Is that like "give us what you have left from the Sterling sale once the loyalty bonus etc are paid then make the rest up when you manage to sell some3one else"?
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Why would we pay more than the release clause?
 
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