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Diego goes mad when i call casemiro a rotund has-been.

yet the evidence is clear for all to see.

I think he's class, but Madrid knew his legs had gone. And, as I say, he's playing in an absolutely unforgiving position. Think I remember Lampard, by nature an AM, playing there against us at that age (it may have even been the Gerrard slip match). They interviewed him afterwards and he said he'd never worked so hard in his life. He staggered off.

Casemiro just wilted in the 7-0 game. He's a flat-track bully now. Fab has gone the same way. Hopefully German football hasn't done the same to Endo's legs yet, because I give him one season in there in the Prem at his age, then he'll be an auxiliary CB at best. Still, not whining - if he does a job for 2 seasons at that fee we musn't grumble.
 
I think he's class, but Madrid knew his legs had gone. And, as I say, he's playing in an absolutely unforgiving position. Think I remember Lampard, by nature an AM, playing there against us at that age (it may have even been the Gerrard slip match). They interviewed him afterwards and he said he'd never worked so hard in his life. He staggered off.

Casemiro just wilted in the 7-0 game. He's a flat-track bully now. Fab has gone the same way. Hopefully German football hasn't done the same to Endo's legs yet, because I give him one season in there in the Prem at his age, then he'll be an auxiliary CB at best. Still, not whining - if he does a job for 2 seasons at that fee we musn't grumble.

ther3s nothing wrong with being a class but cannot run, rotund has been

I never once denigrated the skills thst he has that have not faded.

its.just he's rotund little face and he cannot cover the ground
 
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We don't know the full picture of what targets were intended but we do now know the club must have had 59million pounds available to spend on one or two players or whatever and we took in 52million for henderson and fabinho.

We do know as a matter of public record form Southampton that bids less than 50million we submitted and a bid of 60million was accepted for lavia. He MUST have been in the top 3 of targets and likely heading the column of realistic targets to be actually bidding.

We do know as a matter of public record that klopp feels Bajcetic is potentially every bit as good as any of these players but needs some time to grow up.

We do know that Brighton accepted an offer from us and that offer was reported widely at 111million. Both klopp and bighton confirmed the bid.

It is then down to complete conjecture as to how much we valued lavia at really or what would have happened if we just spent to 50 in july.

We also know as a matte of record that tyler adam was in Chelsea doing an medical and was sent home after the time where LFC were bidding on lavia below 50mil.

The important point for any LFC fan is that the club had the money and was not willing to put it down to secure lavia at the time where the team would have been prepared for day 1 of the season.

Its now heading for match day 2 and the situation is now totally changed with a totally different player being rumoured


Have LFc missed out on Caicedo punt? yes.
Is that shocking? no. most of us on here firday morning thought it quite odd and unlikely.
Have LFC misse dout on main target Lavia? Yes
Is that poor? Yes, though some seem determined to deny it we have clearly had the means and opportunity to deliver but seemed to lack the will and then lost the player's interest.
Have LFc now gone and made a left field bid? Yes.
Is that poor? Nobody has a clue.
I posted the quote from Joyce denying that we had bid £60m for Lavia and had it accepted because you claimed Joyce is the most reliable with LFC news. The Southampton fella said we did have a bid accepted but he didn't say how much it was and certainly didn't mention £60m so it isn't a matter of public record. I only post what I read because, like everyone else on here, I have no personal knowledge of the ins and outs of club dealings. I'm hoping Klopp is asked the question tomorrow to clear things up. We could end up with a Martinez situation where he claimed he was offered the manager job and turned it down and Ayre categorically denied he had been offered the job which leaves people to choose who they want to believe.
 
I posted the quote from Joyce denying that we had bid £60m for Lavia and had it accepted because you claimed Joyce is the most reliable with LFC news. The Southampton fella said we did have a bid accepted but he didn't say how much it was and certainly didn't mention £60m so it isn't a matter of public record. I only post what I read because, like everyone else on here, I have no personal knowledge of the ins and outs of club dealings. I'm hoping Klopp is asked the question tomorrow to clear things up. We could end up with a Martinez situation where he claimed he was offered the manager job and turned it down and Ayre categorically denied he had been offered the job which leaves people to choose who they want to believe.

so the journalist joyce or the direct quote from the director of football of Southampton.

which should I go with?

cos one is wrong.
 
Palace want £70m. We think we can get him at a 'snip' for £58m. ****ing thanks, Chelsea. Apart from taking our main summer target you've distorted the market to a point that a £30m player at most is seen as a bargain at almost double that price. And, you've made us show our hand that we have £111m to chuck about, just like when Baca were trying to plead poverty when buying Coutinho, days after they'd reluctantly banked £200m for Neymar a week before.

We should have done our shopping last summer when Tchumainae knocked us back and Chelsea were over the show during their takeover. We've basically gone out now into a sellers' market as there's a lottery winner in town. :emoticon-0107-sweat


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Palace want £70m. We think we can get him at a 'snip' for £58m. ****ing thanks, Chelsea. Apart from taking our main summer target you've distorted the market to a point that a £30m player at most is seen as a bargain at almost double that price. And, you've made us show our hand that we have £111m to chuck about, just like when Baca were trying to plead poverty when buying Coutinho, days after they'd reluctantly banked £200m for Neymar a week before.

We should have done our shopping last summer when Tchumainae knocked us back and Chelsea were over the show during their takeover. We've basically gone out now into a sellers' market as there's a lottery winner in town. :emoticon-0107-sweat


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He is REALLY not worth it. From what I've seem he's a dive in form anywhere mad man in the mould of sissoko.

Yes we should always buy when the money is there not wait as inflation only go one way isn't it?
 
£70m! ffs.
This market is getting insane!
He is a decent player, but I wouldnt pay £70m for him.
Then again I wouldnt have paid £115m for Caicedo either so what do I know.

I'm going to hazard a guess that you know you wouldn't have paid £115m for Caicedo and wouldn't pay £70m for Doucoure <whistle>
 
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You're the one who said Joyce is the most trusted with LFC news so it's for you to decide. :)

Btw if the offer wasn't £60m then both are right.

He's the most trusted VOICE OF LFC (as in will say what he is told to say)

When he says something you are hearing what the club wants you to hear.

all of these guys are quite happy to let the Bellingham stuff build over 18months than immediately drop the walking away line.

It kept all the fans very happy speculating over a player I knew for sure 100% was never ever playing for LFC. (don't ask how i knew that)

Its all a game out there. all propaganda from either side.

Certain people have been bad actors in driving the all players choose Chelsea over LFC lines etc. They quite like the opportunity to make it sound like footballing reasons.
 
He's the most trusted VOICE OF LFC (as in will say what he is told to say)

When he says something you are hearing what the club wants you to hear.

all of these guys are quite happy to let the Bellingham stuff build over 18months than immediately drop the walking away line.

It kept all the fans very happy speculating over a player I knew for sure 100% was never ever playing for LFC. (don't ask how i knew that)

Its all a game out there. all propaganda from either side.

Certain people have been bad actors in driving the all players choose Chelsea over LFC lines etc. They quite like the opportunity to make it sound like footballing reasons.


How did you know that?
 
He's the most trusted VOICE OF LFC (as in will say what he is told to say)

When he says something you are hearing what the club wants you to hear.

all of these guys are quite happy to let the Bellingham stuff build over 18months than immediately drop the walking away line.

It kept all the fans very happy speculating over a player I knew for sure 100% was never ever playing for LFC. (don't ask how i knew that)

Its all a game out there. all propaganda from either side.

Certain people have been bad actors in driving the all players choose Chelsea over LFC lines etc. They quite like the opportunity to make it sound like footballing reasons.

Oh, soz. :emoticon-0138-think
 
This smacks of another agent jacking the price up too - I was all for Amrabat back in January, and he'd be good value at £30m, but he's not young (so Chelsea won't be throwing their wallet at him :emoticon-0143-smirk), yet you'd expect United, with CL football, to up their bid IF they want him (and they pay better). And judging by Casemiro on Monday, they damn weel need him. And that's another thing about 30-something DMs - even top, top class ones like Casemiro and Fab (29) can't cut it every game in there. it's the hardest role in football, IMO, the equivalent of the 400m in track and field.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...-Amrabat-Morocco-midfielder-Jurgen-Klopp.html
He'd be out for months if they hit him with that.
 
He's the most trusted VOICE OF LFC (as in will say what he is told to say)

When he says something you are hearing what the club wants you to hear.

all of these guys are quite happy to let the Bellingham stuff build over 18months than immediately drop the walking away line.

It kept all the fans very happy speculating over a player I knew for sure 100% was never ever playing for LFC. (don't ask how i knew that)

Its all a game out there. all propaganda from either side.

Certain people have been bad actors in driving the all players choose Chelsea over LFC lines etc. They quite like the opportunity to make it sound like footballing reasons.
Gertcha - you stated with absolute certainty several times that he was going to Cheslea.
Completely wrong yet still claim the win - well played. :)