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If we look at it this way

Cheslea max line up:

Kepa (70)
Fofana (75) Koulibaly (35) Cucurella (70)
James (0) Fernandez (105) joorginho (55) Chilwell (50)
Havertz (75) Lukaku (105) Mduryk (70)

not i've been kind in putting james in as clearly thier best option there but i've had to pleave out pulisic at 60 odd, wermer at 55, kovacic at 40, sterling at 50 odd, and various others amounting to baout 300mil

theres about £710 mil in the 11 and the bench would easy bring it to a billion.

Aside from that lucky run in the CL you've have to call this self harm of the worst type.


Man Utd max line up
De gea (20)
Wan bisskaa (50) Maguire (85) Martinez (55) Sahw (35)
Casemiro (60) Pogba (90)
Anthony (81) fernandes (60) Sancho (75)
Lukaku (75)

I am leaving the likes of lindeloff, varane, mkhitaryan, matic, fred, van beek, martial, bailly all out here.

This adds up to 686million wasted.



By contrast arsenal:

Ramsdale (25)
White (50) saliba (25) Gabriel (20) zinchenko (30)
Partey (45) xhaka (40)
Saka (0) Odengaard (35) Martinelli (5)
Jesus (50)

this team is (currently) top of the prem. 325mil spend, plus a lot of mistakes over the years but still

Liverpool cannot boast to be very smart either

Alisson (64)
trent (0) Konate (35) VVD (75) Roberston (8)
Ox (40) Fabinho 45) keita (50)
Jost (45) Nunez (64 if you like) Diaz (45)

this is actually more than arsneal have spend at 471mil. Its farily clear our spending on forwards has pushed the old gaurd out and the failure on midfielders is costing us :)

At least LFC have a few titles. The amount of monet spend by Utd and cheslea chasing city and getting nowehre is absolutely massive isn't it?

Arsenal have managed it briefly though bright young players and half the spend.
well i'm very confused of the parameters you are using but can i just point out Pepe at £65m is an Arsenal player .
 
By wipe out your worth I meant in terms of not being worth investing in. Your original point was about us not being as attractive as an option to buy out or into wasn't it? I'm just saying that one poor season doesn't make us less attractive for investors. Look at utd and the fighting amongst potential investors there atm.

no, I said we’d be worth less, especially if FSG compound the issue and do not invest. Both are correct.
 
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I mean, everyone is correct here.

Our total value is still high, one of the highest in the world, but our valuation would have dropped a little, just from the fact we're going to have £30mil+ less in revenue next season and our existing squad needs several hundred mil invested in it.

But yes, it probably hasn't dropped us too far down the list of most valuable clubs. It will certainly have dropped us some though.
 
I think tonight's match really shows we should be looking to buy a RB asked play Trent in midfield
I still prefer him in his old position but it looks like the intention is definitely to move him into midfield - so yes, we need to get a proper RB.
 
It's a shame we haven't seen much of Ramsay this season. If Trent is midfield-bound then a RB will undoubtedly be outsourced
 
I still prefer him in his old position but it looks like the intention is definitely to move him into midfield - so yes, we need to get a proper RB.

I’m not totally convinced - while great on the ball, it’s the off the ball work and lack of pace that concerns me. That said, I didn’t see last nights game and how he performed.
 
well i'm very confused of the parameters you are using but can i just point out Pepe at £65m is an Arsenal player .

gigantic wastes of money.

really I'm just looming at the scalding poor return some clubs have gotten out of their massive spending as that spending completely dominates the top British transfers list.
 
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I think tonight's match really shows we should be looking to buy a RB asked play Trent in midfield

tonight mostly showed we lack penetration up front. leaving trent aside we just shuffled in front of Leeds until they made the errors. that's the same issues we have had for yonks.

the exact.same gaps and issues lead to their goal. sloppiness and no cover.

personally seeing jota get the money off his back was good but we have a lot of work to do to get that cutting edge back in our game.

if you park your rb at 6 and your LB at lcb it's very hard get a good overlap with your wide players. as a result (and Henderson doesn't help either) we got advanced wide and back passed.

one point to make is unlike some games there was actually players in the box but we wouldn't cross.
 
gigantic wastes of money.

really I'm just looming at the scalding poor return some clubs have gotten out of their massive spending as that spending completely dominates the top British transfers list.

Think the point is you can’t list arsenals best 11, and leave out the big money signing. Then list our team and our ox and Keita in it
 
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Think the point is you can’t list arsenals best 11, and leave out the big money signing. Then list our team and our ox and Keita in it

Well I can and did.

Look I probably did mix the drinks there.

The point was our spend is actually large and we have made mistakes in the big buys, whereas arsneal have basically got most of it right just recently and they are flying as a reuslt.

Yes I just showed what arsenal got to as a team there but have left out a couple of terrible buys over the previous period. all it does is put pepe in for saka really and add 70 mil to thier total.
 
I’m not totally convinced - while great on the ball, it’s the off the ball work and lack of pace that concerns me. That said, I didn’t see last nights game and how he performed.
Easily his best game from midfield, but it will take more than one good one to convince me that it's worth losing that supply from the wings that has been so successful for a few years.
I'm not happy with the move, but I'm resigned to it because it definitely looks like that's the future. If he suddenly starts providing more assists and creating more chances than he did out wide (tall order) then I might come round.
 
Well I can and did.

Look I probably did mix the drinks there.

The point was our spend is actually large and we have made mistakes in the big buys, whereas arsneal have basically got most of it right just recently and they are flying as a reuslt.

Yes I just showed what arsenal got to as a team there but have left out a couple of terrible buys over the previous period. all it does is put pepe in for saka really and add 70 mil to thier total.

in that case, our team pretty cheap.

Ali 60m
taa 0
Matip 0
vvd 75m
robbo 8m
hendo 16m
Bajcetic 250k
jones 0m
salah 32m
firmino 30m
jota 45m
 
Easily his best game from midfield, but it will take more than one good one to convince me that it's worth losing that supply from the wings that has been so successful for a few years.
I'm not happy with the move, but I'm resigned to it because it definitely looks like that's the future. If he suddenly starts providing more assists and creating more chances than he did out wide (tall order) then I might come round.

Only thing can think is that previously we scored lots of goals from crosses but they weren’t your conventional cross in and win headers. They were crosses from deeper in behind the defence for mane and Salah to be running onto from wide to inside.

And when it was a cross from closer to their goal it was generally an overlap and a low ball in.

Maybe klopp doesn’t want TAA overlapping because he can’t get back, Hendo/Fabinho can’t cover that area in the way they did so leaves huge space? Maybe Nunez/gakpo/Jota aren’t making those runs in behind from deeper crosses like mane used to make so having to adapt?

Maybe worried that teams had started to work that out so is just trying to adapt and not become stale?
 
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tonight mostly showed we lack penetration up front. leaving trent aside we just shuffled in front of Leeds until they made the errors. that's the same issues we have had for yonks.

the exact.same gaps and issues lead to their goal. sloppiness and no cover.

personally seeing jota get the money off his back was good but we have a lot of work to do to get that cutting edge back in our game.

if you park your rb at 6 and your LB at lcb it's very hard get a good overlap with your wide players. as a result (and Henderson doesn't help either) we got advanced wide and back passed.

one point to make is unlike some games there was actually players in the box but we wouldn't cross.
That's literally what everyone does. you move the ball until an error is made, whether that's a failure to track or a slip or you get an overload.