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**** Xhaka
If we're going to swap, its Saka or Smith-Rowe, rest of Arsenals squad is ****
Will be interesting to see where he goes next. Same mistake Gini made? Chasing the big money? Or does he genuinely believe there's nothing else for him to prove here and wants a new challenge (*cough* Newcastle and more money)
So we’ll soon see who was the critical piece of the back room staff and whether the transfer success was more Klopp than Edwards - though I’d like to believe it was just good team work.
We are promoting from within.
Julian Ward has been tips for months. he is already assistant sporting direcotr working with edwards on counting paper clips and ringing up clubs asking them to bid on origi and phillips.
Ward is the guy who used to send players on **** loans where they would get no football time.
those of you not in the know won't have sene his CV I guess
Title: Assistant Sporting Director
Dates: Dec 2020 – Present
Title: Pathways & Football Partnerships Manager
Dates Oct 2015 – Dec 2020
Claims to fame (his won writing)
* Developing a strong network of club-to-club relations, national federation contacts and agent relationships across English Football and Europe’s top tier and second tier leagues.
* Establishing a detailed knowledge of playing level, style and financial capacity of clubs throughout Europe to support player placement and loan deal structure.
*Managing the pathways of LFC's elite Non-EU players
* Collaborating with various departments across Liverpool FC, including the Board, First Team Management, Legal, LFC Academy Coaching, Medical Departments and Sports Science departments, in order to manage the performance pathways of loan players.
* Negotiating and structuring club to club loan player agreements.
* Fostering strong player, agent and coach relations and dialogue.
Title: European Scouting Manager (Spain & Portugal Regions)
Dates: Oct 2012 – Oct 2015
Implementing Talent Identification and Player Recruitment Strategies across Spain and Portugal at Manchester City Football Club
Title: South American Scouting Strategist at Manchester City Football Club
Dates: Nov 2010 – Nov 2012
Devising and implementing Player Development Pathways for elite Non-EU players
Title: Head of Analysis and Technical Scouting at Portuguese Football Federation
Dates: Aug 2008 – Nov 2010
Undertaking opponent scouting and analysis
Monitoring of Portuguese International Player Talent Pool
Communicating performance feedback to National Team playing and coaching staff.
Working as part of the Portuguese National Team's technical team for the 2010 World Cup Qualification Campaign and 2010 World Cup Finals
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those of you old enough to remember a time when LFC did not just throw everything out and start again with every change in staff would recall a successful time when people got promoted from within.
Julian Ward has been tips for months. he is already assistant sporting direcotr working with edwards on counting paper clips and ringing up clubs asking them to bid on origi and phillips.
Ward is the guy who used to send players on **** loans where they would get no football time.
those of you not in the know won't have sene his CV I guess
Title: Assistant Sporting Director
Dates: Dec 2020 – Present
Title: Pathways & Football Partnerships Manager
Dates Oct 2015 – Dec 2020
Claims to fame (his won writing)
* Developing a strong network of club-to-club relations, national federation contacts and agent relationships across English Football and Europe’s top tier and second tier leagues.
* Establishing a detailed knowledge of playing level, style and financial capacity of clubs throughout Europe to support player placement and loan deal structure.
*Managing the pathways of LFC's elite Non-EU players
* Collaborating with various departments across Liverpool FC, including the Board, First Team Management, Legal, LFC Academy Coaching, Medical Departments and Sports Science departments, in order to manage the performance pathways of loan players.
* Negotiating and structuring club to club loan player agreements.
* Fostering strong player, agent and coach relations and dialogue.
Title: European Scouting Manager (Spain & Portugal Regions)
Dates: Oct 2012 – Oct 2015
Implementing Talent Identification and Player Recruitment Strategies across Spain and Portugal at Manchester City Football Club
Title: South American Scouting Strategist at Manchester City Football Club
Dates: Nov 2010 – Nov 2012
Devising and implementing Player Development Pathways for elite Non-EU players
Title: Head of Analysis and Technical Scouting at Portuguese Football Federation
Dates: Aug 2008 – Nov 2010
Undertaking opponent scouting and analysis
Monitoring of Portuguese International Player Talent Pool
Communicating performance feedback to National Team playing and coaching staff.
Working as part of the Portuguese National Team's technical team for the 2010 World Cup Qualification Campaign and 2010 World Cup Finals
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those of you old enough to remember a time when LFC did not just throw everything out and start again with every change in staff would recall a successful time when people got promoted from within.
indeed, it won’t be a surprise who takes over. However, ‘a new brush sweeps clean’ supposedly so will be intriguing to see if anything changes.
imo We are living in the bargain basement….that much is clear, I don’t expect that to change much tbh.
Not doing too badly out of it, are we?
no no, someone has to do it badly first for milner to come in and put it right.
milly likes to put them in order and line them up for easy access
I mean generally. We've operated the same financial strategy since FSG took over, and we haven't been too shabby competing with the big spenders.I’ll tell you at the end of the season
The 6 months prior to leaving, Coutinho became an absolute beast. He had found that consistency (remains to be seen if it would have continued or not) but he was playing at a world class level and was reaching that peak.
There is a still a very good player inside of him but I wouldn't go back now.
There is a still a very good player inside of him but I wouldn't go back now.
Not since we had Klopp. Only a coach like him can make FSG’s ‘money ball’ (or whatever it’s called) work.
Reality is though, that even he had to rely on a huge windfall from Cout’s to take a big step up and will we be in the position to do this again anytime soon? Am not so sure.
how much did our reserve full backs cost versus out competitions? Midfield? Forwards? This is the major difference for me…..our financial model, rightly so, does not allow for big money signings (and wages) to sit on a bench.
I’m not moaning btw, just looking at it in a realistic way. We are at a financial disadvantage to the others and it is currently offset by one thing: Klopp. It is not offset by anything else/Edwards/moneyball/smart financials.
the funny thing about moneyball is the last scenes have john henry talking to bill beane and offering him anything to come and beane turns him down and henry makes his own and wins the world series.
Henry sacked comolli and then ****ed off and focused on commercial revenue and never got his moneyball man into LFC really. He finally got shut of the "committee" bullshit with ayre
I simply didn't see a deliberate structure being created here leveraging moneyball, maybe an evolution enabled by manager?
It will be interesting to see who this is sustained.
If we go hire the "best manager possible" next time or worse gerrard
and they have a massive ego and try roder the sporting director to buy 3 pogbas and have a strop if they don't get exactly who they want what will happen?
Henry sacked comolli and then ****ed off and focused on commercial revenue and never got his moneyball man into LFC really. He finally got shut of the "committee" bullshit with ayre
I simply didn't see a deliberate structure being created here leveraging moneyball, maybe an evolution enabled by manager?
It will be interesting to see who this is sustained.
If we go hire the "best manager possible" next time or worse gerrard
and they have a massive ego and try roder the sporting director to buy 3 pogbas and have a strop if they don't get exactly who they want what will happen?
I think thre biggest change wad the approach to the transfer committee.
The mixed bag of bollocks with said committee and Brod was never going to work; buying a bit of what each party wanted.
Now, all signings are part of the same project. That's because the manager gets the final say (whether that is Klopp or someone else doesn't matter too much)
yes and yes.
Its about building the project not personal wishes and its about the manager saying yes.
The question is if theres an ego in there who's going to cross the next manager. the transfer committee bullshit was so weak. They appointed comolli then hired the city scouts and next them sack comolli and leave the scouts and decide ian ayre and edwards get some picks and rodgers can have one. no club can run like that.
BTW. I think utd look like that today. someone is buying targetmen forwards and bought beaky. agent ole doens't want a target man and doesn't want beaky and won't pick them.
mourinho whinged about not getting maguire and he is then bought for 10mil extra the next season.
Long may that continue and i hope we do not return to it.
I agree with all of this except the bolded bit. It will take a really special manager to replicate what Klopp has done in terms of simultaneously developing individual players and an unstoppable team.